Official April 4 2005 thread

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-MyAngelMJ-

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
Why do people want to place all their hopes and disappointments on the direct examination? If anything, you should be looking @ at all the holes and illogic. The truth has ALWAYS come out on cross, no reason for that to end now.

Tomorrow will be MUCH different from today.
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Exactly ! Mez gonna point out all the inconsistencies in Jason's Testimony tommorow.
 
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MystiqueX2004

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Originally posted by megan23
well I hope and pray Mez drops some bombs on him tomorrow :hitting ....I will admit I am kinda scared right now cuz if the jury believes his lying ass face it Mike's in trouble....it's just sad it has come to all of this. I know Mike is wishing he never settled shit, hell I wish that too :uh_uh: This injustice just pisses me off! anyone know if Feldman represented this boy too?
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My problem is that even IF the jury decides to believe this stuff, it has nothing, i repeat, NOTHING, to do with the current case or charges. Had this guy really had something substantial, there would have been a separate trial for his allegations YEARS ago...or this trial would have included charges for that particular molestation. Michael's settlement did not barr the D.A from seeking a criminal trial..The D.A and the Santa Barbara Dept could have still charged Michael with molestation, but they didn't..Nor did this guy and his mother pursue it further. If he did not want anyone to think him gay, then why is he coming now? Again, I state that if he truly undergone therapy, then that therapist or counselor is required BY LAW, to report any instances of abuse. But yet, we hear of no such instance. He said, at first, that he went to the police at 13, but then he says he didn't tell anyone of this abuse. So how did his mother know? How did the police know? If she saw something, then would she not have confronted her son about it? Even if she wanted money? And, AND, she sued Michael in court, did she not? And lost, right? Then he would have had to say something then....A child at the age of 7 does not have any fear of being considered gay...They don't even truly understand the meaning of it..And if he had this so called fear of being considered gay, then why come out now? His allegations were already heard and dismissed 12 years ago by the same police department that has called him to their aid today.....A child of seven, eight, and ten, does not keep hundreds of dollars, and go tell God about it and not their parents...Sure they may pray about it, but they would tell their parents of the instance first....He says that he did not know of the settlement until he was 17, so why did he not say something then? When he was older and mature? Why did his mother recant and say that nothing happened? Why go to tabloids and not a real news show? Why not go back to the cops and make sure that justice is served? Why get money and not justice? Why recant if these things truly happened? Why not get justice even after you get the criminal's money??? He keeps saying that he was a kid and that he did not understand all that was happening...Unless he was one naive child, anything that happens to a kid, they usually report to somebody . And kids are smarter than are given credit for...I'm sure that at that age, and any age, if someone touched your little peepee, you'd let your mommy know, even if it was indirectly.....Why is the prosecution giving ear to his claims, when Michael has not been convicted of those claims? I repeat this is the same prosecution or at least the same D.A , that left these allegations alone... There is so many holes in this and other situations, that if I see them, I'm sure that grown adults with children of their own, and T-Mez will knock out... :boxing:
 
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SpecialJanet25

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Originally posted by MystiqueX2004
My problem is that even IF the jury decides to believe this stuff, it has nothing, i repeat, NOTHING, to do with the current case or charges. Had this guy really had something substantial, there would have been a separate trial for his allegations YEARS ago...or this trial would have included charges for that particular molestation. Michael's settlement did not barr the D.A from seeking a criminal trial..The D.A and the Santa Barbara Dept could have still charged Michael with molestation, but they didn't..Nor did this guy and his mother pursue it further. If he did not want anyone to think him gay, then why is he coming now? Again, I state that if he truly undergone therapy, then that therapist or counselor is required BY LAW, to report any instances of abuse. But yet, we hear of no such instance. He said, at first, that he went to the police at 13, but then he says he didn't tell anyone of this abuse. So how did his mother know? How did the police know? If she saw something, then would she not have confronted her son about it? Even if she wanted money? And, AND, she sued Michael in court, did she not? And lost, right? Then he would have had to say something then....A child at the age of 7 does not have any fear of being considered gay...They don't even truly understand the meaning of it..And if he had this so called fear of being considered gay, then why come out now? His allegations were already heard and dismissed 12 years ago by the same police department that has called him to their aid today.....A child of seven, eight, and ten, does not keep hundreds of dollars, and go tell God about it and not their parents...Sure they may pray about it, but they would tell their parents of the instance first....He says that he did not know of the settlement until he was 17, so why did he not say something then? When he was older and mature? Why did his mother recant and say that nothing happened? Why go to tabloids and not a real news show? Why not go back to the cops and make sure that justice is served? Why get money and not justice? Why recant if these things truly happened? Why not get justice even after you get the criminal's money??? He keeps saying that he was a kid and that he did not understand all that was happening...Unless he was one naive child, anything that happens to a kid, they usually report to somebody . And kids are smarter than are given credit for...I'm sure that at that age, and any age, if someone touched your little peepee, you'd let your mommy know, even if it was indirectly.....Why is the prosecution giving ear to his claims, when Michael has not been convicted of those claims? I repeat this is the same prosecution or at least the same D.A , that left these allegations alone... There is so many holes in this and other situations, that if I see them, I'm sure that grown adults with children of their own, and T-Mez will knock out... :boxing:
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Thank you! Exactly!
 
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htarw

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i totally agree with that....there are major holes in his story and they will come out on cross....mez will not let this go without a serious fight....however, the question i am asking myself is, why is he coming forward now? what's his motive? did the $2 million ran out, and he is now looking to capitalize on that....or is the DA buying witnesses in some form or fashion?
 
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Cristine87

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Originally posted by MystiqueX2004
My problem is that even IF the jury decides to believe this stuff, it has nothing, i repeat, NOTHING, to do with the current case or charges. Had this guy really had something substantial, there would have been a separate trial for his allegations YEARS ago...or this trial would have included charges for that particular molestation. Michael's settlement did not barr the D.A from seeking a criminal trial..The D.A and the Santa Barbara Dept could have still charged Michael with molestation, but they didn't..Nor did this guy and his mother pursue it further. If he did not want anyone to think him gay, then why is he coming now? Again, I state that if he truly undergone therapy, then that therapist or counselor is required BY LAW, to report any instances of abuse. But yet, we hear of no such instance. He said, at first, that he went to the police at 13, but then he says he didn't tell anyone of this abuse. So how did his mother know? How did the police know? If she saw something, then would she not have confronted her son about it? Even if she wanted money? And, AND, she sued Michael in court, did she not? And lost, right? Then he would have had to say something then....A child at the age of 7 does not have any fear of being considered gay...They don't even truly understand the meaning of it..And if he had this so called fear of being considered gay, then why come out now? His allegations were already heard and dismissed 12 years ago by the same police department that has called him to their aid today.....A child of seven, eight, and ten, does not keep hundreds of dollars, and go tell God about it and not their parents...Sure they may pray about it, but they would tell their parents of the instance first....He says that he did not know of the settlement until he was 17, so why did he not say something then? When he was older and mature? Why did his mother recant and say that nothing happened? Why go to tabloids and not a real news show? Why not go back to the cops and make sure that justice is served? Why get money and not justice? Why recant if these things truly happened? Why not get justice even after you get the criminal's money??? He keeps saying that he was a kid and that he did not understand all that was happening...Unless he was one naive child, anything that happens to a kid, they usually report to somebody . And kids are smarter than are given credit for...I'm sure that at that age, and any age, if someone touched your little peepee, you'd let your mommy know, even if it was indirectly.....Why is the prosecution giving ear to his claims, when Michael has not been convicted of those claims? I repeat this is the same prosecution or at least the same D.A , that left these allegations alone... There is so many holes in this and other situations, that if I see them, I'm sure that grown adults with children of their own, and T-Mez will knock out... :boxing:
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So ****ing true! How is it that they left these allegations alone then, but all of a sudden they bring him in now to testify. Why was he willing to testify now & not earlier? 15 years! 15 ****ing years & he decides to testify now! It seems to me as if he only talks about allegations when the authorities tell him to. What still bothers me, is that he talks about getting tickled. He's breakin down on the stand & claiming he needed 5 years of therapy because Michael tickled him innappropriately? The way he's acting, you'd think he was raped!
 
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megan23

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thanks Mystique...I feel better about it now, I was just having one of those moments earlier....this case is beginning to seriously mess with my head :extremely I hope Mez smokes his ass tomorrow :praying:
 
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SpecialJanet25

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Originally posted by megan23
thanks Mystique...I feel better about it now, I was just having one of those moments earlier....this case is beginning to seriously mess with my head :extremely I hope Mez smokes his ass tomorrow :praying:
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Don't worry Megan. I'm sure Mez got something on his ass tomorrow.
 
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HeavenSent

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I'm glad we have folks who talk a lot of sense in here. It helps the members to get thru this.

On good days and 'bad', it's always good to hear some sense! Amen? Amen.

And I want to repeat what I said earlier, DO NOT watch Court TV!
 
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floacist

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Diane Dimond and Nancy Grace are having a field day, I dont think I have seen bigger and uglier smiles on either of those hoes than how they were smiling today.They actually inspire me with their bullshit stories and sources as a future journalist, I now have examples on who NOT to be like.
 
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MystiqueX2004

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Originally posted by megan23
thanks Mystique...I feel better about it now, I was just having one of those moments earlier....this case is beginning to seriously mess with my head :extremely I hope Mez smokes his ass tomorrow :praying:
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I understand...When the prosecution comes out with a so-called bombshell, and the media goes nuts about it, I feel worried at times too..Remember when at the beginning of the case, there was so much hype about these porno mags and the fingerprints being on the same page, come to find out that it even that evidence was flawed and possibly contaminated? W :disgusted hen I stop and think, and do a little analyzing, I get really mad, because the media is completely overlooking some of these flaws that are apparent to a 19 year old, but yet these people call themselves professionals, and are supposed to be unbiased...And when the find out the other side of the story, they act shocked, like a deer caught in the headlights...
 
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