Ralph Chacon

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The testimony of Ralph Chacon proved to be quite devastating to the 1108 portion of the prosecution's case. Chacon is one of the "Neverland Five" who sued Michael Jackson in the 90's. They lost. They were counter-sued by Jackson, and lost again.

Chacon was found by another civil jury to have stolen from Jackson, acted with malice against him, and a judgment was entered against him to which he had to pay Jackson's legal fees and tens of thousands of dollars for stealing.

Chacon filed for bankruptcy and still owed Jackson the judgment when he came in to testify for the prosecution. Needless to say, the jury didn't believe him.



Excerpts:

Q. You sued Mr. Jackson and you wanted $16 million, right?

A. Well, I don't know about the 16 million.

Q. You wanted millions, true?

A. No, sir.

Q. Really?

A. Well, I don't know, sir. Whatever our attorney was -- he's the one who was speaking for us.

Q. Okay. We'll get into that. You sued Mr. Jackson claiming you were wrongfully terminated, right?

A. That's correct, sir.

Q. He sued you claiming you had stolen property from him, true?

A. That's correct, sir.

Q. The jury found you were not wrongfully terminated by Mr. Jackson, correct?

A. But we were, sir.

Q. Answer my question, please. Did the Santa Maria jury find you were not wrongfully terminated by Mr. Jackson?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And they also found you had stolen property from Mr. Jackson, correct?

A. But I didn't, sir.

Q. Did the Santa Maria jury find you had stolen property from Mr. Jackson?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. A judgment was entered against you, Mr. Chacon, for $25,000, the value of what you had stolen, correct?

A. For candy bars, sir?

Q. A judgment was entered against you for $25,000, the value of what the Court found you had stolen, correct?

A. Well, if a candy bar is worth that much, yes, sir.

Q. That's not all you owe Mr. Jackson currently, is it?

A. No, sir. I don't owe him.

Q. In fact, Judge Zel Canter of this court, entered a judgment against you and your co-defendants for $1,473,117.61, correct?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. He ordered you pay all of Mr. Jackson's legal fees and costs, correct?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you ever paid any of that judgment, Mr.Chacon?

A. No, sir. I filed bankruptcy.

Q. Now, the jury found you not only stole from Mr. Jackson, but you acted maliciously, correct?

A. No, sir.

Q. Did a judge find you had acted with malice?

A. No, sir.

Q. Is there a judgment against you for acting with fraud against Mr. Jackson?

A. That I know of, no, sir.

Q. Would it refresh your recollection to look at the judgment?

A. Yes, sir.

MR. MESEREAU: May I approach, Your Honor?

THE COURT: Yes.

THE WITNESS: Okay. Oh, it's there, sir. I didn't know. Yes, sir.

Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Have you had a chance to look at that judgment, Mr. Chacon?

A. Do you mean right now?

Q. Yes.

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