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by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:18 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 9806

Official June 3 2005

CourtTV: Arguments are done. Instructions being given to jurors. It's starting!
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:18 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 31483

Official June 3 2005

CourtTV: Arguments are done. Instructions being given to jurors. It's starting!
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:05 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 9806

Official June 3 2005

Originally posted by James12 Nope, that's not how justice works. He is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I'm aware of that, but you said, "What I mean is that it increases the likelyhood that he'll get a fair verdict." I'm saying what's fair will be an accurate verdict. Not necessarily "not gu...
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:05 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 31483

Official June 3 2005

Originally posted by James12 Nope, that's not how justice works. He is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I'm aware of that, but you said, "What I mean is that it increases the likelyhood that he'll get a fair verdict." I'm saying what's fair will be an accurate verdict. Not necessarily "not gu...
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:47 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 9806

Official June 3 2005

You're synonymizing "fair" with "innocent."

It'll be the jury's job to decide what fair is.

Not that I disagree with his innocence, but I don't buy the theory that MJ would be regarded as a political prisoner resulting in riots, etc.
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:47 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 31483

Official June 3 2005

You're synonymizing "fair" with "innocent."

It'll be the jury's job to decide what fair is.

Not that I disagree with his innocence, but I don't buy the theory that MJ would be regarded as a political prisoner resulting in riots, etc.
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:12 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 31483

Official June 3 2005

There's no way to confirm when they'd come to a verdict. It takes as long as it takes.
by nowayout11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:12 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 3 2005
Replies: 133
Views: 9806

Official June 3 2005

There's no way to confirm when they'd come to a verdict. It takes as long as it takes.
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:50 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 29969

Official June 1 2005 Thread

I think you're confusing the terms Frenchy. :) It's the prosecution's job to prove guilt. And they must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. "Maybe he did it" or even "he probably did it" is not sufficient for a guilty verdict. It must be "absolutely yes." The defense doesn't have to prove anything. ...
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:50 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 9369

Official June 1 2005 Thread

I think you're confusing the terms Frenchy. :) It's the prosecution's job to prove guilt. And they must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. "Maybe he did it" or even "he probably did it" is not sufficient for a guilty verdict. It must be "absolutely yes." The defense doesn't have to prove anything. ...
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:17 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 29969

Official June 1 2005 Thread

The jurors come back with guilty/not guilty on each of the charges. No reasons WHY are given. The reason "why" is simply because they agree with one side more than the other.

Also, a judge CAN throw out a jury's verdict, but that is extremely rare.
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:17 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 9369

Official June 1 2005 Thread

The jurors come back with guilty/not guilty on each of the charges. No reasons WHY are given. The reason "why" is simply because they agree with one side more than the other.

Also, a judge CAN throw out a jury's verdict, but that is extremely rare.
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:14 pm
Forum: Michael Jackson CONVERSATIONS
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 9369

Official June 1 2005 Thread

Originally posted by senecajackson
How can they prove that Michael gave that boy acohol?
I'm confused!
They're trying to based on the testimony given... where are you confused?
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:14 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 29969

Official June 1 2005 Thread

Originally posted by senecajackson
How can they prove that Michael gave that boy acohol?
I'm confused!
They're trying to based on the testimony given... where are you confused?
by nowayout11
Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:56 pm
Forum: Trial Archive
Topic: Official June 1 2005 Thread
Replies: 147
Views: 29969

Official June 1 2005 Thread

Well, that's an observer's theory. Nobody really knows why they rested when they did.