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Post by nowayout11 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:47 pm

You're synonymizing "fair" with "innocent."

It'll be the jury's job to decide what fair is.

Not that I disagree with his innocence, but I don't buy the theory that MJ would be regarded as a political prisoner resulting in riots, etc.

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Post by superjacksonfan69 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:48 pm

NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!!

NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!! NOT GUILTY!!


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Post by James12 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:53 pm

Originally posted by nowayout11
You're synonymizing "fair" with "innocent."

It'll be the jury's job to decide what fair is.

Not that I disagree with his innocence, but I don't buy the theory that MJ would be regarded as a political prisoner resulting in riots, etc.
Nope, that's not how justice works. He is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

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Post by Frenchy » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:53 pm

Relax guys... I am nervous but confident. But also, I rely on my common sense!! Let's keep the faith.
As far as I'm concerned, I will try to not expect a verdict today. Although it'd be great if the whole thing could be done before the weekend... But honestly, despite the yet to be confirmed Diane Demon's claim that the jury requested an extension, I don't think we'll get a verdict by the end of today. I would be very surprised.

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Post by HoldMeThrillMe » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:56 pm

This is insufferable.

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Post by James12 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:01 pm

And no I'm not drawing a synonym between innocent and fair. I have no idea where you got that notion.

And no, it is not the jury's job to decide what is fair. It is their job to decide how to apply fairness in this case.

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Post by nowayout11 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:05 pm

Originally posted by James12
Nope, that's not how justice works. He is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
I'm aware of that, but you said, "What I mean is that it increases the likelyhood that he'll get a fair verdict."

I'm saying what's fair will be an accurate verdict. Not necessarily "not guilty" or a fast one.

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Post by superjacksonfan69 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:14 pm

jury out to deliberate!

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Post by HoldMeThrillMe » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:15 pm

No, it's actually their job to decide if MJ is guilty or innocent. Fairness doesn't factor in to it at all.

And there's a line between confident and cocky. I wish some fans would recognize it.

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Post by superjacksonfan69 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:17 pm

GET READY FOR THAT NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES VERDICT BY TODAY.

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Post by James12 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:17 pm

Oay, I think we're having trouble with basic definitions. By fair verdict, I don't mean innocent verdict. I mean one that was arrived at with fairness.

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Post by nowayout11 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:18 pm

CourtTV: Arguments are done. Instructions being given to jurors. It's starting!

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Post by danaluvsmj » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:18 pm

This is it, the jury can reach a verdict anytime! God the suspense is killing me!

I have a good feeling a verdict will come out today I just know it :crystalball:
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Post by superjacksonfan69 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:19 pm

So by the end of the day will see what will happen right?

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Post by nowayout11 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:20 pm

Not necessarily. The deliberations will take as long as they will take. Could take an hour. a day. a week. All we know is that it's about to be in their hands.

There likely won't come to a conclusion today because there's not much time left in the day, and there are a number of charges to go over.

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