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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by frozen rose » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:52 am

La Toya, Janet to close show



BY MICHELLE CARUSO
DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF


SANTA MARIA, Calif. - Jurors in Michael Jackson's child-molestation trial may get their first in-person look at the pop star's flashy sisters Janet and La Toya today as lawyers for both sides deliver their all-important closing arguments.
The Jackson glamour gals are expected to join their mom, pop and brothers in court for the last hurrah in the trial that will either send the pop icon to jail or back to Neverland Ranch for a postverdict bash.

With the hard-fought 62-day-long court battle headed for the last round, the pop star is "nervous" and "upset," his spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

"He realizes in the next few days there will be jury deliberations," she said. "It's a very difficult situation to sit in there and know your life is in the balance. He has strong faith in God and a strong faith in the judicial system. But he knows his fate lies in the hands of 12 people."

The arguments by prosecutor Ron Zonen and defense lawyer Tom Mesereau are expected to last all day today and part of tomorrow. Each side has up to four hours to state their case.

Then, after a few parting words from the judge, the jury of eight women and four men, who range in age from 20 to 79, are expected to begin deliberations tomorrow afternoon.

"Michael's family wants to be there for him and he wants them there," said a source. Jackson's parents, Katherine and Joe, and the singer's brothers have been regulars at court since the jury was seated, but La Toya and Janet haven't been seen since a pretrial hearing last summer. Jackson's oldest sister, Rebbie. has never shown up.

Jackson is accused of plying a 13-year-old cancer survivor with booze and molesting him and conspiring to hold the boy and his family against their will to force their participation in a sappy video in 2003. Jackson denies all charges.

Meanwhile, in an interview to air tonight on ABC's "Primetime Live," Jackson pal Frank Tyson, who was named as an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the alleged plot to hold the accuser's family against their will, said the accuser is "lying." He described the teen as a street tough who "would be the first one to knock Michael out" if he had touched him.

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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by frozen rose » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:53 am

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Jackson's Rich Protégé?

Thursday, June 02, 2005
By Roger Friedman


Michael Jackson's longtime protégé, confidante and friend, is broke and living at home with his parents.

That was one of the many things we discussed recently after Frank Tyson learned he would not be called by either side in the Jackson case.

Tyson -- which is stage name -- is the son of New Jersey restaurateur Dominic Cascio , who met Jackson when he was banquet manager at New York's Helmsley Palace Hotel in the early 1990s. The elder Cascio would have been an excellent character witness for Jackson: an adult male upon whom Jackson depends for advice and who trusts the singer enough to let his children stay at Neverland unsupervised.

Tyson, whom I first met when Jackson was involved with Shmuley Boteach in a questionable charity, is only 24 years old. He's trying to get his music career together without Jackson's help and he's just starting to make some inroads. But when he heard that Judge Rodney Melville mentioned his name while reading the Jackson jury their instructions yesterday, he had to laugh again.

One of the most amusing of the 28 items that make up the "conspiracy" charge is that Michael Jackson allegedly gave Frank Tyson $1 million in cash on March 31, 2003.

Today, Tyson is wondering where that million dollars might be. Last week, after his grandmother passed away suddenly, Tyson moved home to stay with his parents. He was forced to give up his share in a midtown apartment. The reason? He's broke.

Isn't that the reason most 24-year-olds move home?

Of course, readers of this column know that the $1 million withdrawn from Washington Mutual Bank in Santa Monica by Tyson was taken directly to Jackson. Tyson and I talked about that as well. It's laughable to think he pocketed the money, he said. And we know what Jackson did with some of it: He bought an almost $500,000 Mercedes limousine. This is also not in evidence.

"Michael likes to have cash around the house so he can buy things without asking his accountant," Tyson told me.

It was not uncommon for Tyson to run such errands for Jackson.

As far as holding the Arvizo family against their will, Tyson says it was often the other way around. Directed to baby-sit them for several weeks, Tyson and his pal, Vinnie Amen were at Janet Arvizo's beck and call. Tyson and Amen were assigned by Jackson's associate Marc Schaffel to look after the Arvizo family in February 2003 after Jackson's manager, Dieter Wiesner, antagonized the mother beyond belief.

Amen voluntarily submitted to an interview with assistant District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss back on Dec. 30, 2004. After accepting limited use immunity, he gave Auchincloss a three-hour interview and answered all his questions about the "conspiracy." Unfortunately, Amen's answers contradicted the district attorney's charges and Auchincloss realized he couldn't call Amen as a witness.

Amen, his immunity limited to just that interview, then declined to testify for the defense. So nobody will ever hear his story. Neither he nor Tyson, nor Schaffel has ever gotten to tell their side of the story or has even been interviewed by the defense.

Now Tyson and Amen are at the center of the conspiracy charge, which is at the heart of Tom Sneddon's case against Jackson. What Tyson did for Jackson, and Amen for Tyson, was a favor. The Arvizos had come to Jackson right after Martin Bashir's special, "Living With Michael Jackson," aired in Britain on Feb. 3, 2003.

They had been approached by, and sort of sold a story to, the Daily Mail of London the next day. Tyson and Amen were asked to keep the family away from the media. No good turn goes unpunished, as they say.

But almost none of this came out in testimony during the 14-week trial. I'm not sure why, because certainly the evidence was there to be introduced. As Melville read off the laundry list of conspiracy charges yesterday, all I could think was that this should be a no-brainer. But as one observer said: That was a long list.

Another item on the conspiracy list was the Arvizos weeklong stay at a hotel in Calabasas, Calif. As far as I know, the receipt for that stay never made it into evidence. I've told you that it shows endless phone calls made by Janet Arvizo to family and friends. There are also receipts for their trip to the movies and endless shopping sprees and meals out.

The jury heard little of that in testimony. They never got to hear about the benefits of being "kidnapped" by Michael Jackson. Perhaps the jury in the inevitable civil case --which will probably be filed by the Arvizos any day now -- will get to hear about all of that.

Molestation Still Has No Fixed Time

Part of early yesterday's court proceedings dealt with how to work out telling the jury about the specific counts against Michael Jackson. Four of them concern child molestation, which is the most serious. Nevertheless, District Attorney Tom Sneddon didn't want to be specific about those charges.

You see, after all these weeks, we still do not know when Jackson allegedly molested the then 13-year-old son of Janet Arvizo. We also do not know when her 12-year-old witnessed this behavior. Sneddon is satisfied with the older boy's quote: "It happened toward the end of our stay [at Neverland]."

That's the charge that could send Michael Jackson to Corcoran State Prison as a cell neighbor of Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan , who assassinated Robert Kennedy. The boy recalls all sorts of things in his testimony; such as the times he visited Neverland, the games he played, etc. But he can't give dates for the two times that he says Michael Jackson molested him. He can't even give a parameter such as: "It was the day after we played bumper cars." Or "I remember because we'd feeding the llamas that day." Or "I'll never forget it because my brother pushed me off the swings."

Nothing.

Judge Melville seems satisfied with this situation, to a point. He said in court yesterday to defense attorney Robert Sanger : "We've seen in these kinds of case that children don't give times and dates."

I'm a fan of Judge Melville, but that doesn't ring true in this case. The Arvizo boys were not toddlers; they were 12 and 13, large physicality and in personality. Comedian Chris Tucker testified it was the accuser who introduced him to Michael Jackson when the boy was 10 or 11. The same boy also pursued a friendship with comedian Jay Leno and kept in regular contact with many other comics as well. He made regular phone calls to all of them and was considered "cunning" by Tucker and articulate by people like George Lopez and Louise Palanker .

He was only inarticulate when it came to recalling exact details of his intimate experiences with Michael Jackson.

Tomorrow we'll address the timeline, which still doesn't make sense in a case full of twists and turns.
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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by frozen rose » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:54 am

DENVER POST

The verdict on Jackson's pop career: thrilling

His acts are on trial, but he has acquitted himself well musically

By Ricardo Baca
Denver Post Pop Music Critic
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Michael Jackson, a.k.a. Wacko Jacko, is facing 10 felony counts in a California courtroom that could put him behind bars for more than 18 years.

Strange, but it's the same Michael Jackson, a.k.a. the King of Pop, who has given us some of the finest, most influential music since the debut of recorded sound.

While the jury is still out in Santa Maria - the molestation case should be passed on to them Friday - Jackson's place in music history has been cemented for decades.

It is a storied career, one that began with the Jackson 5's debut single "I Want You Back" in 1969 when Michael was just 11. His ability to channel James Brown's dance moves and eventually redefine the sound of pop (with a hand from Quincy Jones) made him simply the biggest pop star in the world.

Whatever you may think of Jackson's current musical relevance, you need only look across Jackson's discography to see the potency of his contribution. Almost every record was a household name at one point. Some transcended pop culture and defined an entire era of radio and recording.

Like most artists, he enjoyed a prolific period. His came between 1979 and 1987, when he reigned over the world's popscape and was an adored icon for millions. But as the spotlight swung away from Jackson in the past 15 years, he has struggled to redefine himself musically and personally.

Michael Jackson's three most influential records show his career arc, from the pre-disco pop he pioneered with his brothers; his first adult solo project, with all its fresh promise; and his pop masterpiece, the best-selling disc of all time and a record that still defines post-disco pop.

1. "Thriller," Michael Jackson, 1982: The obvious choice, for good reason. Not only does the seminal record kick off with the undeniable post-disco bass line of "Wanna Be Startin' Something'," this is also where we got "Beat It," "Billie Jean," "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)," "Human Nature" and the title track - an unbelievable source of early-'80s pop goodness.

True, "Thriller" is plagued by the ill-fated Paul McCartney-

duet "The Girl Is Mine," a Top-10 ballad that hasn't withstood time as well as its record-mates. But look past McCartney and Jackson harmonizing "The doggone girl is mine" and you'll see the rest of the record, which became the biggest-selling album of all time with more than 45 million in worldwide sales and No.1 status in every Western country.

Of "Thriller's" seven Top-10 singles, the one that never got respect as one of Jackson's most epic tracks is "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)," a song many fans couldn't hum without the record's assistance. But give it another listen: While there are the staples of Jones' production, don't discount Jackson's assured voice and presence, which never seemed more comfortable or natural.

2. "ABC," Jackson 5, 1970:

The Jackson 5's sophomore release is where the group set its true course of pre-disco pop. Michael Jackson and his brothers already had struck pop gold in "I Want You Back," but this record brought on the standard-setting "ABC," "The Love You Save," and the lesser-celebrated "(Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need," all of which exemplified the luscious simplicity for which the band would become known.

They weren't afraid to give multiple spelling lessons on the "ABC" LP: "S is for 'Save me;' T is for 'Take it slow;' O is for 'Oh, no;' P is for 'Please, please don't go.' " With Michael's undeniable voice fronting the operation - and stealing the spotlight at every turn - the record not only paved the way for future releases from the Jackson 5, a group that remains one of the most successful black pop-soul bands in history, but also for the work Michael Jackson would go on to accomplish.

The juxtaposition of fuzzed-out guitars and clean piano in the song "ABC" - along with the varying Jackson voices, which get more of a workout here than anywhere else within their greatest hits - gives the song an astonishing relevance, even today. It is packaged for mass consumption, with simple chords and kindergarten-level lyrics, but the song's lively, youthful vibe ensures that it's a dance-floor jam nearly 35 years after it was written.

3. "Off the Wall," Michael Jackson, 1979: This is undoubtedly the path that led Jackson to "Thriller," and while it is a sometimes awkward growth spurt, it also captures Jackson at a time of innocence and uninflated ego. "Bad," the 1987 record that spawned five No.1s, was an accomplishment - but it was also slightly smug, with Jackson flexing and "hooo"-ing when he didn't need to. This makes "Off the Wall" an even more enjoyable listen.

It's nearly impossible to make out what he's saying in "Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough," but it's better that way. The lyrics are inane. The beat is anything but. Horn-accented and guitar-fueled, this song is all about Jackson's upper-register, the vague yet intoxicating croon that was amazing because Jackson still possessed it at 25. "Rock With You" was pure adult-contemporary saccharine, but it was still great 1980 radio.

Don't forget about the pseudo-beat boxing that led into "Workin' Day and Night," a mindless disco confection that was fun and slightly ahead of its time. But it's the title track's classic structure and harmonies that are the album's standouts. It had everything - from Jackson's trademark sustain to the remarkably soft R&B-light production. It signified a change in Jackson, who seemed to be making the conscious decision to become one of the biggest stars the world has seen.
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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by frozen rose » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:55 am

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Last Chance To Sway Jackson Jury

After many long months of investigation, 14 weeks of trial, and the testimony of 135 witnesses, the prosecution and defense in the Michael Jackson child molestation case have one last chance to sway the jury.

In his commentary, CBS News Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen previews the logic each side could use to prove its point in closing arguments, which begin Thursday.

What The Prosecution Should Say

The following is a summary of what Santa Barbara prosecutor Ron Zonen should - but probably won't - say during his closing argument in the Michael Jackson child molestation and conspiracy case.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: Thank you for your patience and focus during this long case. I know it has not been easy on you and your families and I just want you to know that we appreciate your service and the commitment you have made. You are here to determine a man's fate and that is never an easy thing to do.

This case, however, is easier than most. The defendant himself has told you, and the world, on videotape, that he sees nothing wrong with sleeping with young boys. He sees this, in a twisted way, as perfectly natural.

I submit to you that it is natural only to someone willing and capable of child molestation. The defendant's own words put him at the scene of a crime; a crime that was detailed to you not just by the victim in this case but by several other witnesses, none of whom were particularly happy about coming forward and telling their stories.

This case does not come down to a "he said/he said" battle of credibility but even if it did, you should have an easy choice between the courage of the young man who came before you as a victim here and the silence of the defendant.

The victim here is not perfect and we never said that he would be. He is not smooth or slick and neither are the other members of his family. They are regular people, caught in a maelstrom of events, brought along by the current of the law to this time and place.

Like other victims of abuse, the young man at the center of this storm has seen his share of troubled times. And like other survivors of a fatal disease, he is angry about his fate and about his lot in life. Do you blame him? I don't.

Please don't confuse that anger with a lack of credibility or sincerity or even accuracy about his reminiscence of the events which brought us here. Please don't confuse his lack of polish and articulateness with a lack of candor.

As you heard from one of our experts, victims of abuse often react the way you saw this victim react in this courtroom. The defense wants you to believe that this is because the young man was acting on the witness stand. I suggest to you that a good actor, an earnest actor, would have come off as far smoother than the victim did in this case. Sometimes there is rawness in truth; sometimes there is conflict in pain.

This is not a case about the victim's past. It's a case about the defendant, and the conduct he engaged in and condoned. It's a case about a pattern of abuse and cover-up, of threats and intimidation, of the controlling of the innocent.

The evidence shows, overwhelmingly, that Michael Jackson lured to his majestic, fantastical Neverland this victim and other young boys similarly situated, and systematically wore down their defenses until they were vulnerable to abuse. Games. Liquor. Freedom from discipline and supervision. Sexual images and conversation. All designed to wear down defenses, and morals, and the reasonable expectations that society places in the minds of young people about what is right and what is wrong.

And then the defendant struck. Perverting the innocence of childhood, the defendant is a grown man who acted like a child in order to seduce his child victims. Remember the testimony of these young men. Remember how similar their stories are. Remember how closely the details track one another.

Remember these things and then ask yourself what is more reasonable, what is more likely: that they all are lying or that the defendant and his lackeys are. The lackeys! They are the men and women who implemented the defendant's conspiracy against the victim and his family in this case. The defense wants you to believe that their actions were merely part of a marketing and public relations campaign designed to limit the damage caused by Michael Jackson's own sick statements to the world.

But the evidence shows otherwise. The evidence shows a dark, malevolent pattern of control and manipulation of the victim and his family. It shows a pattern of threats and coercion. It shows panic on the part of the defendant and his entourage. In short, it shows what you would expect to see from someone who did something terribly wrong and wanted to hide that from the world.

Don't let the defendant off the hook simply because he was not involved in every detail of every act designed to further this goal. The law does not require such involvement in order to convict. But it does allow you to use plain old common sense.

You know the old saying that goes: where there is smoke, there is fire? We've shown you columns of smoke in this case. You've seen it billowing from the mouths of witness after witness, who came forward to tell you that the defendant had the motive, the opportunity and the evil intent to commit this awful crime. You've seen patterns of it from the defendant's past. From past and current employees there, you've seen it cloud the air over Neverland.

We don't have a videotape of the molestation. We almost never do. And we don't have a confession to it by the defendant. We almost never do.

What we do have is a compelling story of predator and prey. Judge for yourself who is who in this case. And when you do, send the defendant a message that no matter how rich or famous or powerful he is, and no matter how sick and tragic were the events of his own childhood, there is no justification or excuse for taking advantage of a young cancer victim and his family.

The defendant so far has led a life of fantasy. It's time for you to bring him back down to Earth and to teach him, finally, what is right and what is wrong.

What The Defense Should Say

The following is a summary of what lead defense attorney Thomas Mesereau should - but probably won't - say during his closing argument in the Michael Jackson child molestation and conspiracy case.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: on behalf of Michael Jackson and our entire team, I know this trial hasn't been easy on you or your families but we are grateful for your service and for the attention you have paid over these long months of testimony.

The prosecution says that where there is smoke there is fire; that because Michael Jackson behaves differently than most when it comes to his relationships with his young friends it necessarily means that he has committed the crime of molestation and the cover-up that goes along with it.

But this trial isn't about the science of how a fire begins. It is not governed by the immutable laws of physics. It's a trial, and a story, about human beings: their strengths and frailties. Sometimes, like in this case, where there is smoke there is only smoke, and no fire, and no amount of fanning by prosecutors or their witnesses can turn that smoke ablaze.

Just because Michael Jackson has odd beliefs doesn't make him a child molester. Just because he sees the world differently than you or me doesn't make him a criminal.

It is not a crime to have a girlie magazine or a book about the human form in your home. It is not a crime to sleep in a bed with young boys. It is not a crime to try to enhance or repair your image to the outside world and it is not a crime to defend yourself in the court of public opinion amid scurrilous reports about your reputation.

Mr. Jackson may not have handled himself perfectly during his relationship with his accuser and the young man's family. But he is not a criminal.

It is your job to determine whether prosecutors have proven their case against Mr. Jackson beyond a reasonable doubt. There is reasonable doubt all over this case. It's in front of you like plates of food at a Sunday brunch. You are free to take a little here and a little there.

Reasonable doubt surrounds this trial and envelops it. It is everywhere you turn.

There is reasonable doubt in the words and the deeds of the accuser, who came to this witness stand and was unable to be sure even of how many times he says he was molested. He told his school principal that he had never been molested and then he said that he had. And no one has disputed the impression others gave of him as someone capable, even eager, to stick up for himself and not allow others to take advantage of him. There is reasonable doubt in the notion that such a young man would permit himself to be molested by anyone, much less Mr. Jackson.

There is reasonable doubt in the words and deeds of the accuser's mother, whose testimony during this trial is an unforgettable as it was scattered and bizarre. Prosecutors want you to buy into what they say is a pattern of molestation by Mr. Jackson but the evidence at trial overwhelming shows a different pattern; a pattern of predatory behavior on the part of the accuser's mother, who used her son as bait in the hopes of luring a suckerfish like Mr. Jackson.

This is a mother who left her children alone with Mr. Jackson at Neverland even after what she now says were clear indications that bad things were happening there. I ask you, as parents, or as people who know parents, does that make sense? If things were so bad at Neverland, would you have let your children return there, and stay there, over and over and over again?

Prosecutors ask you to use common sense. We make a similar request. Ask yourself how many parts of the accuser's story don't make sense. Each of these examples represents reasonable doubt and each should lead you to an acquittal.

There is reasonable doubt, too, from the other young men who came forward, men identified by prosecution witnesses, third-parties mostly, as other so-called "victims" of Mr. Jackson. But these young men testified, under oath, that they are not victims of Mr. Jackson.

So who should you believe? The young with direct knowledge of what went on, or what didn't go on, between themselves and Mr. Jackson? Or other people who say they might have seen this or that? It's like that old line: who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?

And even though it is not the case you are to judge beginning later today, the 1993 episode between Mr. Jackson and another accuser, an event that prosecutors made so much of during their presentation, is full of reasonable doubt.

Michael Jackson already has paid a terrible price for opening himself up to these sorts of extortion games. He knows that. And he regrets it. It's a problem that he has only himself to blame for. But just because he is in many ways innocent, and naïve and vulnerable, as you heard witnesses testify to during this case, doesn't mean that he is a criminal or that he engaged in the awful acts he stands accused of.

But this is more than a weak molestation case. It's a terrible conspiracy case, too. You heard hour upon hour of testimony about all sorts of things that were allegedly done and said to Jackson's accuser and his family.

And yet how many times did you hear that Mr. Jackson said those words or did those deeds? If there was a conspiracy here, absurd in itself, it was brought about by people who do not themselves face charges and who did not show up to testify in this case.

Remember those witnesses who testified about the distance between Mr. Jackson and these men? Remember Debbie Rowe when she testified about how Mr. Jackson was manipulated even by those closest around him? That's your conspiracy.

Some of you may have even asked yourselves, based upon how bad this conspiracy evidence was, why it even was included in this case. It was included so that prosecutors could convince the judge to allow into this case all those other phony-baloney molestation accusations you heard about, second- and third-hand. Don't let prosecutors get away with that trick.

Don't judge Michael Jackson harshly for his lifestyle. It's not perfect. It's not what you or I would choose. Don't judge him for his clothes or his fame or his face or the unusual way in which he views the world.

In America, it isn't a crime to be strange. And you folks have a unique opportunity to remind everyone that it never should be.
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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by frozen rose » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:56 am

By JIM AVILA and EILEEN MURPHY

SANTA MARIA, Calif., June 1, 2005 – Here are key moments from today's proceedings in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial.

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Quote of the Day

"You know I read to my wife at night so she'll go to sleep. Am I having that effect here?"

– Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville joking with jury members as he read through detailed instructions they must follow in their deliberations.


When Is Bad News Good News for Michael Jackson?

Judge Melville will instruct the jury that it can find Jackson guilty of the lesser crime of furnishing alcohol to a minor, a misdemeanor, when considering the four counts against Jackson that he provided alcohol to assist in child molestation. Melville said of Jackson giving alcohol to a minor, "It seems to me that this is one charge that the evidence supports."

However, it may be good for Jackson because it gives the jury a lesser option. If jurors feel there is not enough to convict of a felony, but they don't want to let him go, this could be a slap-on-the-wrist charge.

Summary

Judge Melville sat in the witness box as he read instructions to the jury. He spent about one hour and 15 minutes reading the instructions. He told them that from now on they must leave their notebooks and instruction packets at court. Jury is not sequestered. After explaining application of the law and looking at the facts, he got down to the specifics of the case – reading each count and all 28 overt acts in the conspiracy count against Jackson. (He explained that they only need to find Jackson guilty of one act to convict on a particular count). He explained that they now have the option of finding Jackson guilty on the charge of furnishing alcohol to a minor if they don't agree on the more serious charge of administering an intoxicating agent with intent of committing a felony.

On past bad acts – judge said that jury should look at it to "determine if it tends to show a characterization, method plan or scheme" that is similar to facts of this case. But he said that even if you infer that the defendant had a disposition to commit sexual offenses it is "not sufficient in itself," only "one item to consider." Judge cautioned them about this saying that they must look at the evidence as a whole. In other words, if they don't believe the current charges they can't convict Jackson.

Melville also explained that some evidence was admitted for a limited purpose. The Martin Bashir documentary, for example, is not admitted for the truth of the matter with the exception of identified passages where Jackson makes statements directly related to this case.

Before reading the jury instructions, Melville asked the prosecution to outline counts 2 through 10 which are the molestation and alcohol counts. This was an interesting exchange because it spotlighted the lack of specificity regarding the date and time of the acts. The district attorney was pressed here and told the court he could only say that counts 2 and 3 referred to the instances when the accuser says he was molested.

Judge Melville told the jury he has never had a child molestation case where this issue didn't come up, saying, "Children don't give dates and times."

Up Next

Closing arguments begin at 8:30 a.m. tomorrow. The state will go first, followed by the defense. The prosecution will then give a final statement before the jury gets the case. Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen will close for the prosecution, Tom Mesereau will close for the defense. Judge Melville told the jury they would hear closings tomorrow and Friday. We don't know when they will get the case, but it's likely either late Friday or Monday. A big family turnout for Jackson is expected for the closing arguments.
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Post by Mathilde » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:48 am

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Post by SapphireScorpio » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:56 am

This is Francesca, using my friends username, again.

Yes, I do read them. I just thouht that it would of been easier posting the ones that had been written on as soon as possible. So you can get them, as the come.
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Official June 2 2005 Thread: Closing Statements

Post by believer » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:01 am

Originally posted by frozen rose
By JIM AVILA and EILEEN MURPHY

Judge Melville will instruct the jury that it can find Jackson guilty of the lesser crime of furnishing alcohol to a minor, a misdemeanor, when considering the four counts against Jackson that he provided alcohol to assist in child molestation. Melville said of Jackson giving alcohol to a minor, "It seems to me that this is one charge that the evidence supports."


Where is that evidence, then? Now it's somehow punishable by law if someone breaks into your wine cellar?
Is Melville even allowed to tell the jury what *he* thinks has been proven?
Aaaargh! And no comment by the pundits. They were in that court room, they heard there is no evidence! Are they all f*****g brain dead?!
Phew. Rhethorical question. We know they are.

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Post by senecajackson » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:04 am

As I'm sitting here reading all of this...I'm crying! I'm in school and my friends are asking me what is wrong! There is just so much tension that I am feeling in my personal life and more so with this trial! I'm just ready for this crap to be over with...and I'm glad it's coming to an end.

Waiting on this verdict is soooo nerve wrecking! But I talked to my good MJ friends mymjdestiny Shardea, and MJFANN Kim; their words and encouragement of faith is really helping me get through this...and of course all of u other very supportive fans out there. I feel not so alone....and I can imagine just how overwhelmed Michael is feeling by all the support from us.

I'm sure Mez will give a powerful closing arguement...he's a G!

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Post by SpecialJanet25 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:24 am

Originally posted by senecajackson
As I'm sitting here reading all of this...I'm crying! I'm in school and my friends are asking me what is wrong! There is just so much tension that I am feeling in my personal life and more so with this trial! I'm just ready for this crap to be over with...and I'm glad it's coming to an end.

Waiting on this verdict is soooo nerve wrecking! But I talked to my good MJ friends mymjdestiny Shardea, and MJFANN Kim; their words and encouragement of faith is really helping me get through this...and of course all of u other very supportive fans out there. I feel not so alone....and I can imagine just how overwhelmed Michael is feeling by all the support from us.

I'm sure Mez will give a powerful closing arguement...he's a G!

Prayers..... :thumbsup

Yeah, I feel you SenecaJackson. These articles make me sick to my stomach. The media don't care who they hurt. They know that family is lying. I can't for this all over too. I couldn't sleep the past few days because this tension is stress me out.
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Post by senecajackson » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:59 am

Originally posted by SpecialJanet25
Yeah, I feel you SenecaJackson. These articles make me sick to my stomach. The media don't care who they hurt. They know that family is lying. I can't for this all over too. I couldn't sleep the past few days because this tension is stress me out.
Yeah....I'm losing sleep myself thinking about it! I think I'm more so anxious than I am nervous!
But I'm handling it...with the help of my friends who are also huge MJ supporters..

We can talk sometime if u'd like! :thumbsup
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Post by mjwifey3 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:59 am

Let's all send Michael our love and send Heaven our prayers, for those of you who don't believe in God then please just send good thoughts out into the universe..... whatever... victory is near I can taste it.... lets be postive.... Michael is innocent and he will be VINDICATED!!! I LOVE YOU MICHAEL ALWAYS AND FOREVER!

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Post by MystiqueX2004 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:02 am

I too am worried. It has even shown up in my dreams. I didn't want to share this at first, but I figured why not? Note: I am not claiming in no way to be psychic. Anyway, for a long time now, whenever I was worried about something or if it was really bothering me, I'd always pray for deliverance. In addition to prayer, when I go to sleep, I would have dreams letting me know the outcome of my situation. I'll give a little example--> When I was in elementary school, I'd be worried about a grade. Then I'd have a dream about what the grade would be. I would wake up and go to school, get my grade back and it would be the exact grade that I dreamt about. This is only one example of many. I have also had dreams of moving far away and experiencing major changes, and guess what? That came true also and so did everything else about the move. I tell you all this, because I have also had a dream regarding the outcome of this trial, so I figured I'd share.

Basically it starts off with the deliberations. There's a lot of shouting and a lot of anger. There is also money. This is where it gets a bit confusing. They are all given half dollars and pennies. The half dollars, I assume signify innocence and the pennies assume guilt. They all cast their money and the overwhelming majority is half dollars, but there are a few pennies. No one knows of this money other than the jury and someone else. I am not sure who. After some more deliberating, the verdict comes out not guilty. Everyone is elated, then Judge Melville thanks Michael for something, but Michael walks to the back room and discovers the money, and that's where I woke up.

I have a feeling that God gives me some dreams to let me know that everything is going to be all right, and to trust that he will see things through or to warn me about some things. I do not have them all the time, just when I am unduly stressed or worried about certain issues. I don't completely understand this dream, so if any of you have any thoughts, feel free to post. Note: I am not crazy, nor am I claiming to be psychic. I just thought that sharing it would encourage some people to keep the faith....

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Post by senecajackson » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:05 am

Originally posted by MystiqueX2004
I too am worried. It has even shown up in my dreams. I didn't want to share this at first, but I figured why not? Note: I am not claiming in no way to be psychic. Anyway, for a long time now, whenever I was worried about something or if it was really bothering me, I'd always pray for deliverance. In addition to prayer, when I go to sleep, I would have dreams letting me know the outcome of my situation. I'll give a little example--> When I was in elementary school, I'd be worried about a grade. Then I'd have a dream about what the grade would be. I would wake up and go to school, get my grade back and it would be the exact grade that I dreamt about. This is only one example of many. I have also had dreams of moving far away and experiencing major changes, and guess what? That came true also and so did everything else about the move. I tell you all this, because I have also had a dream regarding the outcome of this trial, so I figured I'd share.

Basically it starts off with the deliberations. There's a lot of shouting and a lot of anger. There is also money. This is where it gets a bit confusing. They are all given half dollars and pennies. The half dollars, I assume signify innocence and the pennies assume guilt. They all cast their money and the overwhelming majority is half dollars, but there are a few pennies. No one knows of this money other than the jury and someone else. I am not sure who. After some more deliberating, the verdict comes out not guilty. Everyone is elated, then Judge Melville thanks Michael for something, but Michael walks to the back room and discovers the money, and that's where I woke up.

I have a feeling that God gives me some dreams to let me know that everything is going to be all right, and to trust that he will see things through or to warn me about some things. I do not have them all the time, just when I am unduly stressed or worried about certain issues. I don't completely understand this dream, so if any of you have any thoughts, feel free to post. Note: I am not crazy, nor am I claiming to be psychic. I just thought that sharing it would encourage some people to keep the faith....
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Post by LadyJackson » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:14 am

I can't believe how unbelieveably calm I am, right now!!! :D I am not nervous for some odd reason...I'm excited!!!

I can't wait for Mez to kick some butt!!! :lol:
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The man is absolutely gorgeous!!!:mf_w00t2:

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