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Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:36 pm
by sistahlamb
ummmm....

damn, good point. Why the hell am I suprised that they pulled that s**t????

I was just pissed off.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:36 pm
by Tiger Lilly
The alcohol charge is the one that's worrying me...

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:39 pm
by got2makeitright
Originally posted by Tiger Lilly
The alcohol charge is the one that's worrying me...

Even if Michael were to be found guilty of this 'new' charge of furnishing alcohol to a minor (with no strings attached), not much would come out of it - certainly no jail-time:


25658. (a) Except as otherwise provided in subdivision ©, every
person who sells, furnishes, gives, or causes to be sold, furnished,
or given away, any alcoholic beverage to any person under the age of
21 years is guilty of a misdemeanor.

...

(2) Except as provided in paragraph (3), any person who violates
subdivision (a) by furnishing an alcoholic beverage, or causing an
alcoholic beverage to be furnished, to a minor shall be punished by a
fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), no part of which shall be
suspended, and the person shall be required to perform not less than
24 hours of community service during hours when the person is not
employed and is not attending school.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:40 pm
by sistahlamb
The alcohol charge is the one that's worrying me...
I should have said this here but i said it in another thread:

But look, there's no proof that Michael did that because the fact has already been established that Gavin and his brother were getting drunk when Michael wasn't even at NL much less anywhere near them.

I don't think we should freak out about this because Meserau will convey all of that to the jury in his closing statements.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:43 pm
by ~Vicky~
Originally posted by Tiger Lilly
The alcohol charge is the one that's worrying me...
Gemma, the only way Michael will be convicted of the alcohol is if he's convicted of the molestation.

Now unless you are talking about this 'new' charge that this **** of a judge just threw in..

I don't want Michael paying any penalty for a crime he didn't commit. But the penalty for giving alcohol to a minor is very small. Money or community service.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:43 pm
by frozen rose

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:47 pm
by sistahlamb
So he could be convicted for that because it can be established that he may not have given G any alchahol, but he knew that G was drinking when he wasn't around and didn't do anything about it???

Am I correct on this???

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:48 pm
by whisper
Originally posted by NevaehDreamz
http://santamariatimes.com/articles/200 ... news00.txt




If the judge does that, seriously I don't know what I will do. That was not part of this original set of charges. You can just throw in a charge at the last minute so his changes of a conviction are higher.


All the alcohol testimony was hearsay. There was no talk AT ALL of Michael giving children alcohol until 2003. You'd think he would have done the same with all his other kid friends huh?

I can't believe this bullshit.
What's the FULL url to this article?

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:48 pm
by got2makeitright
yes.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:50 pm
by SapphireScorpio
:cryptic *looks at DS picture* *vomits*

:sneddoncrybaby :sneddoncr :D

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:51 pm
by sistahlamb
But why the hell would Michael know about something like that and not do a single thing about it???

I think I may have been inncorrect about what I said about that.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:52 pm
by Tiger Lilly
I don't want Michael paying any penalty for a crime he didn't commit. But the penalty for giving alcohol to a minor is very small. Money or community service.
Really? Are you sure? Because I thought that that charge alone serves jail time...

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:56 pm
by sistahlamb
You can read more about that on page 4 of this thread Tiger Lily.

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:57 pm
by Tiger Lilly
You can read more about that on page 4 of this thread Tiger Lily.
Thank you hunni! :)

Offical 31st May 2005 Thread: No court today, just discussion about instru.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:59 pm
by SapphireScorpio
Its a fact, in any shape of form that any person male female, that has given a minor (female or male) a achololic drink is put in prison. Doesn't matter if it is a crime on its own, or it is attached with another crime; eg. used during child abuse or even used before murdering someone.