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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:48 am

UPCOMING COURT EVENTS & DETAILS

DATE TIME EVENT(S) LOCATION

12/20/04 9:30am Plaintiff’s Objection to the Subpoena of Psychiatric Records and Request that Court Limit the Scope of the Records Sought

Motion for Protective Order [filed by Santa Barbara County’s Jury Commissioner]

Motion for Admission of Evidence of Defendant’s Prior Sexual Offenses [To Be Continued to a Date in January 2005]

Motion to Continue Trial

Motion to Seal Motion to Continue Trial [and Opposition and Reply Thereto, if sealing order sought
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Motion to Seal Motion for Admission of Evidence of Defendant’s Prior Sexual Offenses

Motion to Seal Plaintiff’s Objection to the Subpoena of Psychiatric Records and Request the Court Limit the Scope of Records Sought [and Opposition and Reply thereto, if sealing order sought]

Motion to Seal Exhibits Offered During Hearing re Motion to Suppress and Return Materials Seized Pursuant to SW No. 5135

Motion to Seal Plaintiff’s Proposed Protocol for Expert’s Examination of EnCase Computer Hard Drives

Motion to Seal Order re Computer Hard Drives

12/20, 12/21, 12/23/2004 CRIMINAL CALENDARS
Dept SM8

12/21/04 9:30am *Some of these matters may be advanced to the Monday, December 20, 2004 Calendar, to the extent the parties may agree subject to court approval.

Motion to Compel Discovery

Motion to Seal Motion to Compel Discovery [and Opposition and Reply thereto, if sealing requested]

12/20, 12/21, 12/23/2004 CRIMINAL CALENDARS
Dept SM8

12/23/04 9:30am *Some of these matters may be advanced to the Monday, December 20, 2004 Calendar, to the extent the parties may agree subject to court approval.

Motion to Dismiss for Outrageous Government Conduct and to Suppress All Evidence Seized Pursuant to SW 5192 and 5196

Motion to Dismiss for Vindictive Prosecution and Outrageous Government Conduct
OSC re Contempt of Court’s Protective Order by a Person Subject to That Order

Motion to Seal OSC re Contempt [and Opposition and Reply thereto, if sealing is sought]

Motion to Seal Motion to Dismiss for Vindictive Prosecution and Outrageous Government Conduct [and Opposition and Reply thereto, if sealing is sought]

Motion to Seal Motion to Dismiss for Outrageous Government Conduct, etc. [and Opposition and Reply thereto, if sealing is sought]

Motion to Seal Search Warrant No. 5196, related Affidavit and Return

Motion to Seal Search Warrant No. 5192, related Affidavit and Return

12/20, 12/21, 12/23/2004 CRIMINAL CALENDARS
Dept SM8

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Post by MJISHOT » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:03 pm

i just cant believe this is all happening! :nonono:
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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:44 pm

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>>MSNBC : Short Rpt. about Dec 20 Hearing from George Lewis Dec 20 2004

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George Lewis report
-shows footage of Mesereau arriving
-says there were about 60 members of the press at Neverland Dec 18
-says Melville signed the recent search warrants
-says the defense does have an argument about the delay

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>>CNN Live Today: Harvey Levin has doubts about 1993 Dec 20 2004

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Harvey Levin (Celebrity Justice)
-says he doesn't think it's smart for prosecutors to being in 1993
-says they'd open up a pandora's box
-say the 93 "case" has a lot of problems
-says: "The kid took money, ran away from the case. The parents had their own issues. And I'm not so sure it's real smart for prosecutors to go down that road"
-insults the parents who brought their kids to Neverland on Dec 17 by chalking it up to "celebrity". (not once thinking that maybe they went to Neverland b/c they don't believe the allegations)

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:00 pm

Jackson's Lawyers Seek Six-Week Delay

Dec 20, 1:00 PM (ET)

By PAUL CHAVEZ

SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - Michael Jackson's lawyers went to court Monday to seek a six-week delay in his child molestation trial, saying they need the extra time to sort through 14,000 pages of evidence filed by prosecutors over the past two months.

Prosecutors had been expected to argue Monday that they should be allowed to present at Jackson's trial evidence of wrongdoing in the entertainer's past. But according to a court calendar released Monday, that motion won't be brought up until next month.

In another motion made public last week, Jackson's attorneys asked that the trial, scheduled to begin Jan. 31, be delayed until mid-March. That motion is to be argued at Monday's hearing.

Jackson, 46, is charged with molesting a boy, conspiracy and administering an intoxicating agent, alcohol, to his alleged victim. The entertainer - who on Friday personally greeted a group of children touring his Neverland Ranch before the Christmas holidays - was not required to attend this week's hearings.

They also asked that the charges against Jackson be dismissed on grounds of "vindictive prosecution and outrageous government conduct," pointing to the execution of more than 100 search warrants including this month's unusual raid on Jackson's estate near Los Olivos. Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville previously rejected a similar defense effort that sought removal of District Attorney Tom Sneddon.

Hearings on pretrial motions were scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday as well.

The prosecution motion that is now to be argued next month asks the judge to allow evidence that Jackson has committed other sex crimes over the years that went uncharged, such as a 1993 molestation case that was settled out of court.



Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/2004122 ... H6H81.html

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:42 pm

Dimond was just on Court TV:

-Prosecutors lose to have Oxman cited for contempt.
-Although she didn't want to admit it, Dimond says the judge "recalled" the contempt thing.
-Oxman says he was both misquoted and that the writer of the NY Post article made up quotes from Oxman. Oxman presented the judge with a "secret affidavit", and then the judge "recalled" the contempt charge.
-she also TRIED to talk-up the prosecution's arguments against the defense.

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:46 pm

Jackson's Lawyers Seek Six-Week Delay

Dec 20, 3:12 PM (ET)

By PAUL CHAVEZ


SANTA MARIA, Calif. (AP) - A lawyer for Michael Jackson urged a judge Monday to delay the start of the pop star's child molestation trial, claiming prosecutors had "sandbagged" the defense team by turning over incorrect and misspelled witness names.

"We're very conscious that the court did not want to hear the 'c' word," defense attorney Robert Sanger said about the request for a six-week continuance. "The problem is we feel we're really being sandbagged here on a number of things."

Sanger told Superior Court Judge Rodney S. Melville that prosecutors had recently provided an updated witness list filled with errors. Among other things, the problem caused defense lawyers to initially think a porn star was being called as a witness, Sanger said.

"It really did put us behind the eight ball," he said.


Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon countered that a continuance should not be granted and accused Jackson's defense team of hyperbole.

"We are ready for trial and we oppose a continuance," Sneddon said.

Of the 164 names on the updated list, 70 were taken from the defense, Sneddon said. He acknowledged a few spelling errors but said the names should have been easily recognizable.

During the hearing, both sides estimated the trial could last as long as five months. Melville was expected to rule on the continuance within the next few days.

The trial is currently scheduled to start on Jan. 31. Jackson's lawyers are seeking the delay to sort through 14,000 pages of evidence filed by prosecutors over the past two months.

Jackson, 46, is charged with molesting a boy, conspiracy and administering an intoxicating agent, alcohol, to his alleged victim. The entertainer - who on Friday personally greeted a group of children touring his Neverland Ranch before the Christmas holidays - was not required to attend the week's hearings.

Prosecutors had been expected to argue that they be allowed to present evidence during the trial of alleged wrongdoing in the entertainer's past. But according to a court calendar released Monday, that motion won't be heard until next month.

In their motion, Jackson's attorneys also asked that the charges be dismissed on grounds of "vindictive prosecution and outrageous government conduct," pointing to the execution of more than 100 search warrants including this month's raid on Jackson's estate near Los Olivos.

Melville previously rejected a similar defense effort to remove Sneddon from the case.

Hearings have been scheduled until Wednesday on pretrial motions. The prosecution request to be argued next month asks the judge to allow evidence that Jackson had allegedly committed sex crimes over the years that went uncharged, such as a 1993 molestation alleged in a lawsuit that was settled out of court.

Prosecutors said in their filing that the evidence will demonstrate Jackson's "propensity" for such crimes, his motive and intent, and show how he "created the opportunities to achieve his goal."


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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:58 pm

QUOTE (MJDANCER123 @ Dec 20 2004, 12:44 PM) at MJJF
My phone connection was terrible, (bugs to work out)

From what I could get:

Judge ruled against 5192, and 5196

Sanger stated that even "your honor" said at some point the search warrants must stop. The recent search was an Invasion of their clients home. Mr. Sanger stated he was out of town at the time of the search.

Defense stated that they are not excited about asking for a continuance, but they have been getting sandbagged on a number of things, talked of mispelled names of witnesses and people that dont exsist.

Prosecution said they would oppose the request for a delay, that they are ready.

It sounded like my intern said that the judge asked what is your estimate for a trial delay, and Mez said 4 to 5 months. (not sure about that)
Pros says that the child is a victim and as a child victim, he is entitled to priority. Pros stated that they feel jury selection will only take 3-4 weeks.

(this is what she must have meant)
During the hearing, both sides estimated the trial could last as long as five months. Melville was expected to rule on the continuance within the next few days.

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:01 pm

QUOTE (MJDANCER123 @ Dec 20 2004, 12:56 PM)
My intern also stated that when the defense talked about Invasion of their clients home the pros said, "The swabbing only took 15 minutes your honor."

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Post by Cristine87 » Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:56 pm

Originally posted by whisper

Pros says that the child is a victim
That has to proven!

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:43 pm

MJDANCER123 Posted: Dec 20 2004, 05:40 PM


Report from inside

Trial not delayed!!

Jury selection forms mailed out next week

Done for today

What was on Thursdays docket was done today

No court tomorrow

Wed is exparte (may be over phone)

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Post by whisper » Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:51 pm

MJDANCER123 Posted: Dec 20 2004, 05:49 PM


First question Sneddon asked when told Trial delay was denied was:

"When will the defendant be required to attend, will he be required to attend the jury selection.?"

Sneddon said "I feel the defendant should be present" I thought that was something he should be here for"

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Post by Pokey » Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:59 pm

trial not delayed? ffs..If the defense needs more time to prepare then the trial should be delayed..Michaels the victim in this!

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Post by HoldMeThrillMe » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:02 pm

****.

Hell, why am I not surprised.

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Post by suga baby » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:39 pm

what do you think the defense will do now? appeal? what if the appeals court rules and over turns all of this? this is truly a railroad job unfolding

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