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Post by dangerous » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:49 pm

lol, i guess she forgot her favorite snow cone syrup and custom made gucci pumps.



SO this tape was made, w/Jay Jackson present. He asked for financial compensation. MJ refused- is this why the tapes were never used in the rebuttal? and does this contradict what was said earlier about MJ forcing them into making tapes. If they were forced, Jay wouldnt be asking for compensation would he? oh god, this is getting ****ed.
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Post by dangerous » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:53 pm

Originally posted by whisper
Napolitano on Fox was going great until he got into the police abuse. He's talking about Michael not wanting to lose his fanbase and crap like that as if that's even at issue now.
-he said there's a tape where the accuser's family is exonerating Michael Jackson
-says the defense probably wanted to spring that tape on the prosecution during the trial but they can't now b/c the prosecution violated (or may have violated) the attorney-client privlilege

Ok Dimond did say something about the defense saying they did their own investigation into the prosecution. Something about hiding evidence and doing all kinds of stuff. I was flipping back and forth trying to make sure I didn't miss the Fox story.
Cant the defense introduce it as new evidence if the judge supress' it from the prosecution. This doesnt mean the tape cant be used at all does it? It was my understanding that aassuming melvilles ruling is favorable, the tape is no longer useable by the prosecution, but OK for the defense.
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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:54 pm

Originally posted by whisper
THis is from the AP article I just posted in the news section:



So she was at Neverland WAAAAAY after March 12 2003. Remember the timeline? So what happened to the big 'escape' story? :laugh
hehehe. So when did the timeline allege the "escape from Neverland?" Since Jay admited he called authorities in April, when did the "abduction" begin and ultimately end?
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Post by mello1 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:56 pm

Originally posted by dangerous
So what does this mean? Can this be used by the defense to give cause why their relationship went sour? OR is this to show the conspiracy is baseless? (ie the reasons the tapes were made)
I think it means that the DA's case is crumbling by the minute. They claimed that MJ and his associates held the family against their will and that they were intimidated into keeping quiet. Well, if you are supposed to be so scared, why are you asking for money????

Yes, it's to show that this conspiracy crap is BASELESS indeed.

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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:04 pm

Originally posted by dangerous
Cant the defense introduce it as new evidence if the judge supress' it from the prosecution. This doesnt mean the tape cant be used at all does it?
I hope it can be used. It just wouldn't seem fair that because the prosecution f*cked up and illegally got their hands on the tape that it can't be used period.
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Post by mello1 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:08 pm

Originally posted by whisper
THis is from the AP article I just posted in the news section:

So she was at Neverland WAAAAAY after March 12 2003. Remember the timeline? So what happened to the big 'escape' story? :laugh
When you write your next bullet Whisper, make sure to refresh us all on the 'timeline' here. I was thinking exactly the same thing but I was not sure of the dates. I know the DA changed the timeline...

From AP article running right now...
Mr. Doe is said to have been present when Miller supervised the making of a videotaped interview with the 12-year-old and his family. The so-called "rebuttal video" was intended to answer negative publicity surrounding a British TV special on Jackson's life that featured the pop star defending his practice of having young boys sleep in his bed.

In the rebuttal video, the boy and his family reportedly vouch for Jackson's good character and praise his relationship with youngsters.

Prosecutors are claiming the family was coerced into making the video as part of a conspiracy charged in the indictment against Jackson.


Now answer me this: how is the family being 'coerced' into making this video when Jay Jackson testified today, under oath, that he was there during the videotaping, AT HIS OWN HOME, WATCHING THE MJ DOCUMENTARY IN ANOTHER ROOM???? What??? Your family is being THREATENED and you are watching TV in another room??? And you are watching MJ???? You mean to tell me that you aren't the least bit curious as to what is going on???

Cry me a river. :makesense:

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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:11 pm

Look at Jay Jackson:
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The step father of the alleged victim of pop star Michael Jackson arrives with the Santa Barbara county district attorney investigator Jeff Ellis (L) at the Santa Barbara County Courthouse in Santa Maria, California August 19, 2004, for a pretrial hearing for Jackson on charges of child molestation
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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:14 pm

Originally posted by mello1

Now answer me this: how is the family being 'coerced' into making this video when Jay Jackson testified today, under oath, that he was there during the videotaping, AT HIS OWN HOME, WATCHING THE MJ DOCUMENTARY IN ANOTHER ROOM????
Yep. We're all asking that question. I'm telling you. Jay had no choice but to tell the truth because it's all on tape anyway. But talk about debunking that conspiracy junk in a heartbeat. The prosecution's screwed.
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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:16 pm

Originally posted by HeavenSent
Look at Jay Jackson:
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So thats our man... thanks Carla. Interesting to put a face to the name. He doesn't look like the sharpest tool in the box now, does he?
Yep. We're all asking that question. I'm telling you. Jay had no choice but to tell the truth because it's all on tape anyway. But talk about debunking that conspiracy junk in a heartbeat. The prosecution's screwed.

:laugh

Sorry I haven't got anything to add. I just posted so y'all know I'm not ignoring this. I'm reading it all.

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Post by LadyJackson » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:23 pm

Notice Diane DID NOT mention in her report that Jay admitted he wanted money from Michael after the docu aired!!! :crackingu She only said that the defense was still having a bad day!!! :crackingu U know what I just laugh when I hear her now because she NEVER makes sense at all!! How the hell could the defense be having a bad day when prosecution witnesses are admitting they were asking for money???!! :crackingu Notice also Jay Jackson basically without actually saying it had to admit that the family WAS NOT coerced into making any tape because THEY MADE THE TAPE AT HIS STUPID APARTMENT!!! :crackingu

Diane says everyday is a bad day for the defense...

The day Michael's verdict of "NOT GUILTY" comes in she'll still say....




















IT WAS A BAD DAY FOR THE DEFENSE!!!!!!! :crackingu :laugh
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Post by whisper » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:24 pm

Originally posted by HeavenSent
I hope it can be used. It just wouldn't seem fair that because the prosecution f*cked up and illegally got their hands on the tape that it can't be used period.
No, the defense can use it. They're just trying to say that the prosecution can't use it.

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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:27 pm

The day Michael's verdict of "NOT GUILTY" comes in she'll still say...







IT WAS A BAD DAY FOR THE DEFENSE!!!!!!!

:crackingu :crackingu :crackingu :crackingu :crackingu

Sorry but that's totally made me PMSL cos I can actually imagine that! :crackingu
No, the defense can use it. They're just trying to say that the prosecution can't use it.

That's great! :D

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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:29 pm

No, the defense can use it. They're just trying to say that the prosecution can't use it.
^^ Okay, good. I was about to say how incredibly f*cked up that would be if it weren't allowed.
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Post by Cristine87 » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:31 pm

Well, the conspiracy theory is ****ed! Why the hell would Michael allowed them to leave Neverland & go to Jay's apartment if he's holding them captive? There's no making sense of that!

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Post by whisper » Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:37 pm

in the lunch break report from Dimond, she did mention what Mez said to the judge
-she says Mez told the judge the AG's investigation was a sham
-Mez said he'd never seen such an investigation like this before
-Mez said they've been doing their own investigation into the prosecution
-Mez said prosecutors were hiding evidence and intimidating witnesses, etc

And remember, this is only what she's telling. She said about 3 times that this isn't a good day for the defense, so you KNOW there had to be many bombshells dropped by the defense in court today.

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