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Post by whisper » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:00 pm

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JANUARY 5 2005 - Christopher Hamilton has published an article at EURWEB about Michael Jackson. He makes some highly interesting points which, of course, this community has been aware of for ages.

In his piece titled “IS IT BECAUSE HE'S BLACK?: What They Don't Want You to Know About Michael Jackson”, he says that Jackson has ascended to a level which no other black person has achieved before.

The article has me thinking again about issues of Jackson’s popularity, his meaning to the community, and his literally earth-shattering achievements.

Hamilton writes:
All anyone has to do is look when Michael started being portrayed as "Crazy." It wasn't during the "Thriller" years. It's cool being a song and dance man. That's what they want. DON'T DARE BECOME A THINKING BUSINESSMAN. DON'T DARE BUY THE BEATLES CATALOG. DON'T DARE MARRY ELVIS' DAUGHTER. DON'T DARE BEAT THE RECORD INDUSTRY AT THEIR OWN GAME.

Michael started being labeled crazy when he began making business moves that no one had been successful at doing.

Michael took two cultural icons and shattered them to pieces.

(see IS IT BECAUSE HE'S BLACK?: What They Don't Want You to Know About Michael Jackson)

The timing of the trashing of Jackson’s image is more than simply coincidental. Jackson has always been Jackson. He has made idealistic statements about family and children way back in the 70s. His idealism ain’t nothing new.

Jackson will always have a special place in history as well. More from Hamilton’s article:
Michael Jackson is literally walking in the shoes that no Black person has ever walked in before. If he ever writes an autobiography, it will be one of the most interesting ever.

A Black man with no real formal education becomes the most powerful man in the industry, DESPITE hatred, racism, enemies in his own camps and a media willing to be bought to the highest bidder.


Is it a wonder why some perpetuate the game of “divide and conquer” with Jackson and the black community?

I definitely have an opinion on this subject, being a member of this community.

Every time Jackson attempts to publicly accomplish positive things for the black community, there are a slew of blacker-than-thou, glorified, big talking negroes -- comfortable in their corporate media jobs -- who swarm him like the plantation Negroes running to tell ‘Massa John’ when other slaves were trying to escape.

And don’t get me started on the ones so smart but so ‘ignant’, with their Michael Eric Dyson-like mentalities. Yeah. I said it, playa. Deal with it.

They swarm him like he failed to pass their reverse brown-paper-bag test. They swarm him like he is somehow less-than-worthy of praise because he didn’t grow up living in the projects. As if living in a house the size of a shoebox in hard-time Gary, Indiana in the 50s is somehow the ‘lap of luxury’! You don’t have to live in the projects to know what’s going on.

Getting back to Hamilton’s article though, he writes that this culture has bombarded us all with two basic facts: The Beatles are the greatest group of all time and that Elvis is the King of Rock & Roll. By Jackson buying the "Beatles Catalog", he in essence became public enemy number one; a situation only aggravated when he married "the King's daughter" Lisa Presley.

On those two cultural icons, Hamilton writes:
The Beatles were great, but they weren't great enough to maintain publishing rights over their own songs.

Elvis was great, but he didn't write his songs. His manager, Col Tom Parker, was the mastermind behind Elvis ... keeping him drugged with fresh subscription pills and doing all the paperwork.


The man does have a point. He also makes the point that to "get" someone, one has to use what that person loves most. Though Hamilton didn't get into the trial or the false molestation allegations, it was quite clear what he meant.

Jackson has had a need to protect and defend children in the past. What a perfect way to try to bring him down and grab his assets by accusing him of harming them. Or so they thought.

Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau actually commented briefly on the need for some to get Jackson’s assets during a panel discussion at Harvard Law School Nov 29 2005.

The attorney was asked if the desire to get Jackson's assets plays a part in Jackson being a target for malicious characters. In response, he told the audience:
I happen to fervently believe there are people who were waiting in the winds hoping he would be convicted so they would simply walk in and grab assets.
(see Astonishing Jackson Trial Discussion w/ Mesereau — MB#290)

He isn't the only one who believes that. This may very well have been a situation where those who desired to see his downfall sat back and waited for it to happen, instead of actively lobbying for the truth to come out.

Couple those operatives with the list of shysters, crooks and usurpers who were actively working against him, and it made for a toxic situation ripe for someone like the Arvizos to come in and try to run their failed plan: (1) lie well enough to get a conviction; and (2) take that conviction and waltz into civil court to get a $10M - $50M judgment handed to them on a silver platter.

Hamilton did, however, mention the ridiculous press conference by Tom Sneddon, the aftermath of Jackson’s acquittal, and the fact that a bunch of absurd articles about his finances materialized. From the article:
The greatest moment for them was the Sneddon press conference. "We got him." Never was such glee so evident. Who cares if we have evidence?

Michael was acquitted, did not celebrate, went home and left the USA. Best move ever. Now what is there left for the haters to do? He's gone. "Gone, what do you mean he moved to Bahrain? Well, how the hell can we get him if he's not here? Quick, get that columnist to write a series of articles on how MJ's teetering on the brink of destruction. Oh we did that? Well, what can we do?"

On the outer surface, it appears Michael is not doing anything to make money.


They would rather you believe he is broke than tell you the truth. Neverland is still owned by MJ. The family home in Encino is still owned by MJ. Michael still owns the Beatles songs through the merger with Sony as well as full ownership of his own songs. But, hey, that's our little secret.


According to rather pathetic regurgitations of financial ruin by the likes of Roger Friedman (fox news), Jackson has been on the verge of bankruptcy for years now. How long does it take a brotha to get broke anyway?

The media, in some form or another, has been claiming Jackson is going bankrupt since 1993. Remember how the world was supposed to end on Dec 20 2005? What happened? Not a damn thing. Friedman is just the latest face placed onto a very old story by someone pushing an agenda.

Instead of admitting that the information from these wanna-be-“sources” was false or somewhat inaccurate, they create some mythical savior who always rushes in and saves the day just in the nick of time….over….and over….and over again.

Oh how blessed Jackson must be! It can’t possibly be due to his own business acumen during the times when he has his eye on the books!

Speaking of the books, Hamilton writes that if Sony had any sense, they would much rather have Jackson as an ally than an enemy:
Sony can still do right by Michael, but it may be too late. However, they still should make a goodwill gesture, but how many times do businesses do that? If I were them, I'd still want MJ as an ally, not as an enemy. It is/was a [mutually] profitable merger.

I'd be scared as hell if I was an enemy of MJ while he is with the multi-billionaires overseas. Believe me, they aren't just over there discussing designer clothing. A conglomerate is in the making.


What may be the situation is that you have a powerful and pissed off Jackson, no longer susceptible to the implantation of operatives around him to siphon off money and keep him in a perpetual state of disorder.

In an odd way, walking through the fire of this past trial may have finally helped him realize his fully headstrong nature, and an independence from those who would seek to use flattery and talk of “understanding him” for the sole reason of leeching off him.

My advice to those who have tried to purposely and repeatedly bring about his downfall? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

You can read Hamilton’s full and very on-point article at EURWeb's website:
http://eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=24224


-MJEOL

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Post by minnie michael » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:18 pm

awww.. cool article..we love positive and truth... :respectmembers




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Post by SpecialJanet25 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:35 pm

I read this on MJJForum. Its excellent. A must read for every fan
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Post by Cristine87 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:46 pm

I so agree, Whisper! People keep saying he's broke, but when exactly is he supposed to get kicked out on to the street? I'm sure he'd be homeless by now!

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Post by MJ Crazy » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:31 pm

Great article!

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Post by Kaiser Soze » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:14 am

I can't agree with that article. It proposes that it was Michaels business moves in the music industry which caused certain people to start a conspiracy to create bad publicity for Michael. That just seems to me to very unlikely.

I don't know how old you people are here, but I'm one year younger then Michael and I can remember when the J5 first came on the scene, and I have followed Michaels career ever since. I even met Michael on Maui when he was vacationing there in 1984. I was living there and we literally walked into each other early one morning (around 1 a.m.) on a Lahaina Beach and spoke for a bit (suprising for me at that time; he knew my name).

In the 1980's Michael was the undisputed king of the music business. For those of you too young to know; Michael was like a God, he was worshipped by the whole world as some kind of superior being. The beginning of the wacko Jackson publicity started IMO for one reason: shocking stories about beloved celebrities sell magazines and get ratings.

At first the stories were not mean spirited, they were attempts to find a reason to speak about Michael and shock at the same time. But Michael was so loved by almost everyone that the stories couldn't be mean because people would get upset at the magazines. So what they did is what they still do today with beloved celebrities who they want to use to sell magazines or get ratings: they look for scandal or something unusual. With Michael they talked about his changing appearance, his voice, the way he dressed, and also about some of the unusual stuff e.g. the elephant man's bones, the hyperbaric chamber, his chimp, etc. That's when Michael released "Leave Me Alone". You could see that Michael was making fun of the tabloid treatment he received in the video for that song.

But none of that stuff was serious. Michael was so big Disney created an attraction at their parks starring Michael that was nothing more then a 3-d music video, Captian EO.

The tabloid treatement he received in that era was not unusual for a celebrity of his status. Almost any popular celebrity is always open for the tabloid treatment because scandal and controversy is what sells magazines and gets ratings much more then anything else.

But something changed in the treatment of Michael when he was accused of child molestation. Most of the media turned on him because they and a large part of the public cannot comprehend children lying about sexual molestation. Michael had a home that was setup like a kid's fantasy. So most people in the media and in the public looked at Michaels house, the fact that Michael befriends kids, and that a kid was accusing Michael. So they simply looked at that situtation and decided that Michael was guilty.

That is the source of so much hatred and belittling of Michael in the media. It's not a conspiracy to defame Michael because he's a successful black man. It's simply that most people in the media think he is guilty ever since the first accusation. They don't take the time to investigate the claims so they simply think that if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it's a duck. Since they think he paid off the first kid and got away with a heinous crime their hatred of Michael only intensified. The "news reporters" and "media pundits" who showed so much visceral hatred of Michael were not hating because of racist motives, black people were some of the media haters and still are today, they simply think Michael is a rich powerful sexual predator who belongs behind bars, they think he is a criminal, even an evil person.

The black media people who think Michael is a criminal aren't uncle toms or sellouts, they're just too lazy to investigate, they're stupid, they're jerks. But they're not motivated by some kind of conspiracy to take down Michael simply because Michael is successful in the music biz.

I do believe there was a conspiracy, but not by the media in demonizing Michael, the media is just lazy and stupid. The conspiracy has to do with organized crime figures who have dominated the entertainment business ever since MCA ( a front organization for the Chicago "Outfit") and Meyer Lansky's syndicate (Bugsy Seigal, Johnny Rosselli, Sidney Korshak etc) took over Hollywood and Las Vegas back in the 1940's-50's. Those crime syndicates are more powerful then ever ( see http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/displ ... 0375414442 and http://www.moldea.com/MCA.html and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006016 ... e&n=283155 ) and Larry Feldman worked for MCA back in the day. They wanted and still want Michael's music catalogue, period. It's straight up organized crime activity, it has nothing to do with a media wide conspiracy to get Michael because he's black. They wanted what is obviously worth a huge amount of money.
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There never was a time

When I was not

Or you were not

There never will be a time

When we will cease to be



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There never was a time

When I was not

Nor you, nor these rulers of men

Nor will there ever be a time

When we will cease to be.



-Bhagavad Gita 2.12 spoken by Sri Krishna



I am the Primeval Self

In you and I



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




I am the Supreme Self

Situated within all living beings



-Bhagavad Gita 10.20 spoken by Sri Krishna



Pure unbounded consciousness

Truth, existence, Bliss am I



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




Krishna is the Supreme Being

He is Truth, Existence, and Bliss (Sat Chit Ananda)



-Brahma Samhita



In infinite expressions I come and go



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




There is no end

To My divine manifestations

What I have spoken to you

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My infinite manifestations.



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Post by Tiger Lilly » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:37 am

Amazing article! Well done whisper and Mr Hamilton. :respectmembers

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Post by mjmsc » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:26 am

goooooooooooood article

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Post by betty boop 84 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:23 pm

I've read that article over and over again and I keep noding my head. I so agree with every point.
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Post by Cristine87 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:48 pm

Originally posted by Kaiser Soze@Jan 6 2006, 12:14 PM
But something changed in the treatment of Michael when he was accused of child molestation. Most of the media turned on him because they and a large part of the public cannot comprehend children lying about sexual molestation. Michael had a home that was setup like a kid's fantasy. So most people in the media and in the public looked at Michaels house, the fact that Michael befriends kids, and that a kid was accusing Michael. So they simply looked at that situtation and decided that Michael was guilty.

That is the source of so much hatred and belittling of Michael in the media. It's not a conspiracy to defame Michael because he's a successful black man. It's simply that most people in the media think he is guilty ever since the first accusation. They don't take the time to investigate the claims so they simply think that if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it's a duck. Since they think he paid off the first kid and got away with a heinous crime their hatred of Michael only intensified. The "news reporters" and "media pundits" who showed so much visceral hatred of Michael were not hating because of racist motives, black people were some of the media haters and still are today, they simply think Michael is a rich powerful sexual predator who belongs behind bars, they think he is a criminal, even an evil person.
You have a good point there! 1993 was a turning point for Michael. It wasn't just about tabloid rumors anymore. This time he was dealing with criminal accusations of being a child sex abuser. I think that really hurt him and the damage from those accusations can never be undone. That's the sad part!

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Post by SpecialJanet25 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:59 pm

Originally posted by Cristine87@Jan 6 2006, 09:48 PM
You have a good point there! 1993 was a turning point for Michael. It wasn't just about tabloid rumors anymore. This time he was dealing with criminal accusations of being a child sex abuser. I think that really hurt him and the damage from those accusations can never be undone. That's the sad part!
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He was never the same after '93. Like you said, Cristine, those allegations serious hurt him but more of his reputation in the public eye. The sad part is when he had to face the same allegations again, but this time he it fought in court and won. When the 1993 allegations hit, it was more like a witch-hunt than tabloid lies and rumors.
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Post by Kaiser Soze » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:53 pm

Hi Cristine, I think the damage can be undone. What it would take is first for Jordan Chandler to come clean or people associated with the scam to come clean, or some kind of evidence to turn up that proves it was a scam. The other accusations believability without the support from the Jordan fiasco is very tenuous. Many "media pundits" during the trial were fond of saying that the case against Michael was very weak and not believable but that the previous Jordan case was proof that Michael is a child molester. Therefore, they reasoned,  Michael would probably get convicted of a least a few charges simply because the jury would think Michael is a child molester even if the Arvizo claims were bogus.

If the Jordan case can be proved beyond a shadpw of a doubt to have been a scam, then Michael would come out looking like a victim. There is plenty of evidence that the Jordan case was a scam but what is needed is a smoking gun because the media is mainly made up of stupid, egotistic, cynical, and lazy people.

Don't worry about Michael. He's much stronger and has much greater intelligence and ability then what people think.  Many people may think he's some type of mentally unbalanced person with deep psychological problems, but the truth is he has an intellect and a power unlike anyone else. Whatever happens does so for a reason, it's all part of the show.
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There never was a time

When I was not

Or you were not

There never will be a time

When we will cease to be



-from \\\'Heaven is Here\\\' by Michael Jackson




There never was a time

When I was not

Nor you, nor these rulers of men

Nor will there ever be a time

When we will cease to be.



-Bhagavad Gita 2.12 spoken by Sri Krishna



I am the Primeval Self

In you and I



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




I am the Supreme Self

Situated within all living beings



-Bhagavad Gita 10.20 spoken by Sri Krishna



Pure unbounded consciousness

Truth, existence, Bliss am I



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




Krishna is the Supreme Being

He is Truth, Existence, and Bliss (Sat Chit Ananda)



-Brahma Samhita



In infinite expressions I come and go



-from \\\'Are You Listening\\\' by Michael Jackson




There is no end

To My divine manifestations

What I have spoken to you

Is only a portion of

My infinite manifestations.



-Bhagavad Gita 10.40 spoken by Sri Krishna

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Post by ~Vicky~ » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:15 pm

The beginning of the wacko Jackson publicity started IMO for one reason: shocking stories about beloved celebrities sell magazines and get ratings.
I agree with that. Michael said it: 'The bigger the star the bigger the target.'

That and the fact that after Michael started changing in appearance, the media flipped out. They didn't understand why...and now that they have a chance to understand, they don't want to and they don't care.

Michael was seen as 'freaky' and the media ran with that image. That image is what has put him in $hit all these years.

I do not think that everything bad that has happened to him happened because he is a black man. I don't doubt that behind the scenes he's come across some people that are shady in that way, but I know for a fact that this hasn't happened all just because he's black. Mostly, it's because Michael is an extremely unorthodox person...in every way.

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Post by abbymjgirl » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:52 pm

Great article. :D

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Post by SpecialJanet25 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:28 am

Originally posted by ~Vicky~@Jan 7 2006, 02:15 AM
I agree with that. Michael said it: 'The bigger the star the bigger the target.'

That and the fact that after Michael started changing in appearance, the media flipped out. They didn't understand why...and now that they have a chance to understand, they don't want to and they don't care.

Michael was seen as 'freaky' and the media ran with that image. That image is what has put him in $hit all these years.

I do not think that everything bad that has happened to him happened because he is a black man. I don't doubt that behind the scenes he's come across some people that are shady in that way, but I know for a fact that this hasn't happened all just because he's black. Mostly, it's because Michael is an extremely unorthodox person...in every way.
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Exactly Vicky! He's simply an easy vulernable target. His change of apperance is one reason why the media targets him. Then when the allegations hit, they focus on his private life.
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