CNN: Tox reports due next week; Murray told EMTs not to transport immed.; VIDEO

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Post by DirtyDiana87 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 pm

SON OF A BITCH!!!! I knew it!!! :o
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Post by CJluvsMJ » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:14 pm

Didn't I tell you guys a MONTH ago that he did it?!
I knew it the whole time, and no one believed me! :lol
I was right all along! :pullhair
I'm glad I dont live in Vegas, coz if I did, I"d drive by his house, whether the cops were there or not, and throw a brick in his window everyday! :rollin
I have a stack of bricks in my suitcase right now, and I'm ready to go! :lol
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Post by Saphster » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:21 pm

[QUOTE=CJluvsMJ;214965]Didn't I tell you guys a MONTH ago that he did it?!
I knew it the whole time, and no one believed me! :lol
I was right all along! :pullhair
I'm glad I dont live in Vegas, coz if I did, I"d drive by his house, whether the cops were there or not, and throw a brick in his window everyday! :rollin
I have a stack of bricks in my suitcase right now, and I'm ready to go! :lol
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I believed you because I also thought the same thing! My first thought when he died was 'Someone had to have killed him!'

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Post by Jackson829 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:31 pm

:1crying:1crying:1crying:icon_bluecry:icon_bluecry On the outside I can't cry anymore, but on the inside, I'm balling. I'm so depressed. That stupid :censored !! This is what I wanna do...:icon_hitting:chairbeat:8-26-03ranting: I knew in my gut that this wasn't supposed to happen and I had suspicions of Murray, even when they said he didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't coming off that easy from me:ohnoyoudidnt But still, its times like this that I'd do ANYTHING to turn back time. God Damn
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Post by Marina » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:56 pm

I’m heartsick! Dr. Murray told the EMTs to “wait 42 mins.”?! People, that Holmby Hills estate is 4 mins. away from UCLA — less if he had called 911 ASAP and left immediately! By the time he said, ‘ok let’s go,’ it was already too late. Dr. Murray is a cardiologist not an anesthesiologist. He shouldn’t have been in the same zip code as Michael OR diprivan: He wasn’t trained, authorized, or certified to administer it, and more importantly, as such, he had no clue how to bring a patient back after giving it! That’s what anesthesiologists do. They are trained to put people under for surgery, trained to know which meds are mild to fatal, which are most effective when they do it, and how to monitor their vital stats. Most importantly, they’re also trained how to revive patients if they should go into extremis: Seconds mean life or death. This was like a dentist trying to do brain surgery. Murray didn’t have the proper specialist, the proper supporting personnel, or the vital stats equipment to monitor Michael. Diprivan and all of the above should only be in a surgical theatre in a hospital. Period. Dirpivan/propofol should never leave the storage room of a hospital, unless it's in the hands of an anesthesiologist, or his/her designee, i.e. a surgical anesthetic nurse. At that point it should only be "on it's way" to a scheduled surgical procedure in that hospital. Period. Also, note that the house surveillance tapes went “missing” and haven’t been found (yet); and they may never be recovered. Under California law, Murray isn’t licensed to administer or prescribe cough syrup, let alone diprivan. He’s not licensed to practice any medicine here. It looks like (for his part), that he is solely responsible for this tragedy. The tox report is everything; when it comes out (hopefully, this week), we should have the full picture.

This is going to be fierce. Remember, Murray lawyered up during the 72 hours after he went AWOL from the E.R. Murray (so far), isn’t an official suspect. When LAPD detectives first interviewed him, as a “person of interest,” he wasn’t Mirandized. He allegedly told them that he had given Michael the diprivan. If Murray is charged, he’ll be Mirandized. Now if detectives got that statement on tape - game, set, match, they got him. But, if they didn’t, his statement won’t be admissible in court. Under California criminal law, Murray could face the following if charged:

(a) Murder 2 (administered the drug/ wreckless disregard for human life), if convicted, +15 yrs./ judge’s discretion. In this case, “I didn’t know” doesn’t cut it: Being an MD he should have known. I won’t get into the numerous specialists who have gone on record saying that he should’ve known better. The fact that he
waited more than half an hour doesn't help him here. This could (should) be the charge IMO.

(b) Manslaughter (administered the drug/ no malice, non-intent). The key concept here is unintended circumstances. This is the “oops, I didn’t mean to kill him, it was an accident, my bad” charge. If convicted 5 -10 yrs./ judge’s discretion.

My guess is it will be either ‘A’ or ‘B,’ and the end of his medical “career.”

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Post by whisper » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:27 pm

He didn't say "wait 42 minutes" in those exact words. He just made the decision for the paramedics to not take Mike to the hospital right away and work on him there. That "work" took about 42 minutes.

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Post by fern » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:33 pm

i have one question : why all those doctors didnt try to heal MJ from this drug, instead of helping him to take it. they could say i don't do the IV go in rehab, we know that MJ couldn't take this drug himself, he needed someone why on earth the doc didn't refuse to give him IV to oblige him to heal the awful habit WHY ?:angry:

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Post by Marina » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:41 pm

[QUOTE=whisper;214981]He didn't say "wait 42 minutes" in those exact words. He just made the decision for the paramedics to not take Mike to the hospital right away and work on him there. That "work" took about 42 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Okay - thanks, got it :). The EMTs followed his orders as the 'doctor on site.' That doesn't change his situation.

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Post by MJfan01' » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:15 pm

Sick Bastard.
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Post by FlyMeToTheMoon » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:21 pm

We don´t know if it´s true whether Michael took this drug or/and some others. We have to wait for the tox reports.

The people around Michael haven´t seen any amiss. Michael would not have been able to do London if it would have been on drugs. Michael wanted to do London. It´s rather impossible that the man is obsessed with healthy food (in daytime) and on the other side (at night) he takes the most dangerous drugs only to get some hours sleep. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

Till now we only see some people spread this thing with the drug. These people are out there to make the public believe MJ is a drug addict. And as always the media support them enthusiastically for their own profit. It´s similar to the occurences some years ago: they try to make the public believe MJ is a pedophile. MJ is not - and the truth was proved in court. We all know Michael is so strong - and he survived.

This time they (of course I don´t know who they are) took no risk. There was a new plan, a timeline - and Murray was out to kill him. I believe that from day one.

I am deeply despaired. Till this moment I´m unable to accept that Michael is not walking - and dancing and singing and talking to us - around anymore on this planet.

I love Michael endlessly...

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Post by DirtyDiana87 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:38 pm

[QUOTE=CJluvsMJ;214965]Didn't I tell you guys a MONTH ago that he did it?!
I knew it the whole time, and no one believed me! :lol
I was right all along! :pullhair
I'm glad I dont live in Vegas, coz if I did, I"d drive by his house, whether the cops were there or not, and throw a brick in his window everyday! :rollin
I have a stack of bricks in my suitcase right now, and I'm ready to go! :lol
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I knew right away when the details of Michael's death started to come out. I didn't say anything to my family because I didn't want them to think that I was just being biast.

I can't help but wonder how Prince, Paris, and Blanket are doing? :(
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Post by InspirationMoonwalks » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:15 pm

You know, I have been personally holding back a bit from all this, as there has just been SO much out there and I want to wait until we know for sure, but...damn. To say this looks suspicious on Murray's part would be the understatement of the year. :cryptic I mean, who knows whether Michael would've ultimately pulled through or not, but why the hell couldn't he have at least tried , at least had him taken to the hosptial right away....instead of wasting, in this situation, literally PRECIOUS time by not immediately getting him into the best situation possible, as soon as he could? Sounds like someone was trying to cover his ass, probably having more than a little to do with him administrating to him a drug he had no business giving anyone outside a hospital in the first place...

He is, at VERY least, an incompetant fool for that alone....:angry::angry:

He's in deep $*it. I'm willing to bet on that..


And man, just knowing that there was even the mere possibility of Michael having a chance to pull through.....:(
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