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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:18 pm

Any news about the "evidence" from Neverland?

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Post by LadyJackson » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:23 pm

The judge is looking at tapes of the Neverland search right now!!
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Post by HeavenSent » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:24 pm

Originally posted by Tiger Lilly
Yeh thanks Ashley, Carla and whisper. :blowkisse
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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:29 pm

Originally posted by HeavenSent
Thank you too girl!
Awww! As if you need my help tho. :laugh
The judge is looking at tapes of the Neverland search right now!!

Shit, I'm anxious now....
They're also saying the defence hasn't proved the whole Sneddon knew Miller worked for Geragos yet.... :pullhairo

Also...
There IS a motion filed about a week ago in which Sneddon said EVEN IF he knew Miller worked for Geragos, he could still raid Miller's office because there is no attorney/client privilege when it is believed the attorney is conducting illegal activity.

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Post by dangerous » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:39 pm

^the illegal activity nonsense is crap bc then they should/would have stated that on the original affadavit. He can't back paddle and say that, its to late.
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Post by ~Vicky~ » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:45 pm

Originally posted by dangerous
^the illegal activity nonsense is crap bc then they should/would have stated that on the original affadavit. He can't back paddle and say that, its to late.
I wouldn't be suprised if Melville let that pass.

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Post by ~Vicky~ » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:46 pm

Originally posted by HoldMeThrillMe
Ok, so I'm going to bed. Please make sure Vicky is all informed and knowledgable of everything that's happening for when I give her a call at some point tomorrow to find out whats going on! (You hear that vIcky? That's a threat.)

I have every part of my body crossed that these bitches really make shitfaces of themselves today.

xxx

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Post by ~Vicky~ » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:56 pm

Has Melville ruled on the 955 motion yet? The motion where Mesereau filed to have the indictment thrown out because of GJ misconduct on Sneddons part?

Does anyone know WHEN he will rule on that?

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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:03 pm

I don't think so, not yet, Vicky.

All I know so far is that they're playing the tape of the raid which shows just about all of Neverland except Michael's own bedroom. Apparantly it shows his kids rooms which is awful.... Yet Sneddon only had warrents to search certain parts of the house so I'm wondering just what's on that tape and whether he turned the camera off at some points. I hope not.

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Post by whisper » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:06 pm

:camera BigStory: Bob Massi talks about Stepfather testimony August 19 2004

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Submitted Date: 2004/8/19
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Air date: August 19 2004

Guest: Bob Massi

-he says the father's admission he asked for money goes to the credibility of the entire case
-says stepfather's denials are to protect the case
-says "what else do you expect the stepfather to say?"
-says his testimony is going to be tainted b/c he's trying to protect the case
and more...

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Post by Tiger Lilly » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:07 pm

Also the tape shows footage after 10pm but Sneddon only has a day warrent, but Sneddon claims that they could continue after if nessacary. Is that true and would evidence after 10pm be thrown out? Mez says the opposite in his motion so something must be set to decide either way.

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Post by Faithful MJ Lover » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:10 pm

Originally posted by dangerous
His presence at the taping of the video kind of throws the whole conspiracy charge out the video, unless he plans on saying he was coerced into forcing the kids to speak well on the tape as well (as if :laugh)

Also, it is my guess that he was the one that got the family into, or at least help convince them to ruin their relationship with Jackson and continue this case forward. From Tuesday, we know that Jay Jackson was a secret informant to Sneddon. Considering Mama just recently had her baby, we know that she was with him during the dates the alleged molestation claims came out. Also, if he was present during the taping of the rebuttal videos, which was around early Febuary, while their relationship was still good, his presence wasnt a big deal. When was it, when Jay Jackson, pulled an Evan Chandler and asked Michael for money for Gavin's appearance on LWMJ, this was supposedly to have happend before their relationship went sour. After the lawsuit for suing the company that aired LWMJ fell through , and after MJ said no to his money claim, they turned on him and wanted to sue him for witholding their property. If Dickerman was their lawyer, and assuming Dickerman knew Miller worked for Geragos, then Jay Jackson would definetly know of the connection, and have reason to relay that to the prosecution.

did any of that make sense? :laugh
Actually....yeah....It did...LOL!
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Post by whisper » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:12 pm

TheFaze Posted: Aug 19 2004, 06:33 PM

Update from Jennalyn...

The afternoon was spent showing the video the cops took of Neverland, when they raided it. They showed the cops getting ready, entering Neverland, and then showing parts of the house (inside) that they were supposed to search. Showed the kids's bedroom and just about everything else inside the house except MJ's personal bedroom. Showed close-ups of the kids' pictures and all. Jennalyn was upset about that...

Sanger presented this video, with, of course, the media and everyone else present.

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Post by Faithful MJ Lover » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:17 pm

*Sigh* I shoulda went to law school.......
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Post by whisper » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:17 pm

Jennalyn Posted: Aug 19 2004, 06:57 PM

the prosecution took 12 hrs of video during the raid...which lasted (according to the officer that took the stand today) from around 9am on Nov 16th until around after midnight. These videos were given over to the defense on DVD a while ago.

The trial will continue with more witnesses tomorrow and perhaps even into next week, or another unset day(s) due to the rate at which the things have gone.

The morning portion of the trial had quite a ¨good¨ feeling, I thought. The afternoon, Sanger was presenting the video and it took most of the afternoon, with not much being said as Officer Zellis (sp?) confirming where things were and how they got that information (they knew the security HQ from sneddon who spoke with others from the 93 case, etc. to obtain surveillance tapes, etc.) I left quite upset at them showing all the rooms in the presence of all the media. To his credit, Sanger tried to have the film screen turned around so only the judge and the def and prosecution could see it, but Melville said no... there were too many issues with keeping information in a public setting open to the media and everyone.

elusive moonwalker Posted: Aug 19 2004, 07:00 PM
well the officer who said that has just admitted they broke the law and the rules of the warrant. they were only allowed to be there till 10pm cause they only had a day warrant. u need a different warrant to search at night

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