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Post by A.Beautiful.Mind » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:44 pm

I hope that the defense during closing statements address the ever changing affidavits and transcripts from the Arvizo family to the jury. I also hope he elaborates on the viriation's between the orginal indictment and the charges which are displayed on the indictment today.

Although the defense have already reflected on how the family orginally went to a civil lawyer 4 months before reporting molestation etc to the authorities, I want him to make this point more apparent to the jury when he concludes. We all know that the only reason why the family were inclined to pay a visit to a civil laywer was because they wanted to extort money from Michael by fabricating false accusation's. But what they weren't aware of was that they would have to go through a criminal trial before they could attempt to file for a lawsuit.

Plus by going through a criminal trial and gaining a conviction would increase their chance's in becoming successful of getting a "pay day" in a civil trial.
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Post by sistahlamb » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:44 pm

I hope this isn't alsready posted:

UpdateL Savana Guthrie

T-Mez continuing closing in saying that there are too many inconsistancies in story, the changes in dates, the number of times he claimed to be molested different times changed. T-Mez said he is a liar and their stories flip flipped all over the place. If you convict MJ of anything, you'll make these people instant millionaires and that's what they are hoping for, that's what they are waiting for. After a conviction they'll be filing lawsuits, that's what they are wanting...a conviction to file a suite. Purgery is a habit to this family, they purgered themselves right here in this courtroom.

Stay tuned.....

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Post by sistahlamb » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:45 pm

Another update:

On sky:
Mez said the Arvizo's are waiting for you to convict MJ so they can then become multi-millionaires.

On Fox:
Jury can go past 2.30pm if they want to.

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Post by Cristine87 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:45 pm

Originally posted by superjacksonfan69
NEWS REPORTS ::from reporter inside the court Room yesterday

He said that today it is very good that Mj showed up with the entire family just like the first day.. and that the Jury got the POINT.. support..love and pride...

says that yesterday.. was devastating for the Prosecution.. he was inside courtroom..and saw a powerfull delivery from MEz.. says that him and his coleagues.. definetely after coming out of court.. thought that Michael Jackson is innocent.. he had the impression that that jury after the end of the recess.. basicaly felt like them.. Mez you don't need to tell us more.. Your client is innocent..
feels that it was improper for Zonen to spend most of his time attacking Mez and says that when Zonen said Mj was a homosexual serial pedo..and dangerous predator.. that lures children to his house .. buys the family's trusts and the takes those kids to molest them.. EVERYBODY felt that it would of been good if they had VICTIMS.. but that if that was the case where are the victims.. besides the current accuser..the one from 93 that never showed up ..and the son of the maid who was clearly not convincing on the stand...
Says that today Mez should be more POWERFUL THAN BEFORE.. predicts Acquital of all charges and if Michael Jackson wanted he could get on top of the suv because he would be free then.
What's your source?

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Post by QuietSoul » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:46 pm

It's good to see Michael's family with him today. Michael must be feeling very scared, he needs the extra support.

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Post by A.Beautiful.Mind » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:47 pm

I hope this isn't alsready posted:

UpdateL Savana Guthrie

T-Mez continuing closing in saying that there are too many inconsistancies in story, the changes in dates, the number of times he claimed to be molested different times changed. T-Mez said he is a liar and their stories flip flipped all over the place. If you convict MJ of anything, you'll make these people instant millionaires and that's what they are hoping for, that's what they are waiting for. After a conviction they'll be filing lawsuits, that's what they are wanting...a conviction to file a suite. Purgery is a habit to this family, they purgered themselves right here in this courtroom.

Stay tuned.....
Yes!!! Just what I wanted him to discuss.
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Post by sistahlamb » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:47 pm

Update:

Fox:
Mez pointed out well over a dozen inconsistancies in Gavin's testimony.

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Post by Cristine87 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:59 pm

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Post by superjacksonfan69 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:59 pm

Host: Savannah, we just saw the parties stepping out of the courtroom for the break. The judge is very, very set on that schedule. They are taking that daily break at 10 minutes even though it is the middle of Mr. Mesereau's argument which i guess affects the pacing of it. We did see Michael Jackson. I don't want to read too much into it, but he had a little more spring to his step after sitting there and listening to Mesereau preach his case to the jury. One of the things we have talked about is all the evidence that never came in this case. Mr. Mesereau has done the same talking, has he not, about the evidence not found at Neverland ranch where the crimes are alleged to have occurred?
Guthrie: Yes, he has. He has hit hard on two things. Floor forensics. No DNA, no semen, no fingerprints where the alleged molestation is said to have occurred. No bodily fluids. He said there's no forensics to back up and corroborate that the boy said. The fingerprints on a couple of girlie magazines is not trustworthy. He says it doesn't prove anything. He is pointing out that there was never any kiddy porn found at Neverland. He made a big deal out of that yesterday. The prosecutors like to parade the pornography collection to embarrass and dehumanize Mr. Jackson. But he said there was never any child pornography. There's never been any allegation that Michael Jackson showed pornography to any child. Zonen said the pornography is not for him, it is to sexualize the boys he wants to molest.

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Post by Cristine87 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:14 pm

Originally posted by superjacksonfan69
Zonen said the pornography is not for him, it is to sexualize the boys he wants to molest.
Zonen is full of shit! Michael uses the magazines to arouse young boys? Before Gavin, Michael is not alleged to have messed with any kid after 1993. So, basically, he took a ten year hiatus from molesting boys! Let me guess, Michael bought up all this porn when he met Gavin in hopes it would seduce him, right? Another thing, Michael met this boy in 2000 or 2001, why would he wait 2-3 years later when he comes under fire for the Bashir documentary to molest him? & let me guess, Mike was just buying all this porn up specifically to molest this boy 2-3 years later? This case gives me me an alser!

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Post by SpecialJanet25 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:22 pm

Here's the point about the both closing arguments. T-Mem's arguments made sense. Zonen did not!
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Post by A.Beautiful.Mind » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:28 pm

The fingerprints on a couple of girlie magazines is not trustworthy
And trustworthy it isn't. The magazine which displayed Gavin Arvizo's fingerprints was published several months after the family "escaped" from neverland (how'd you get that). And also the proceedure in extracting and analysing that fingerprint was not properly contucted as we learnt in the early stages of the prosecution's case when the defense were cross-examining their witness
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Post by whisper » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:29 pm

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Post by sistahlamb » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:32 pm

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DirtyDiana2000: (Diane Dimond) She said that the jury requested a time extension to deliberate because they feel they could reach a verdict today, it was GRANTED! So the extension is for a few hours until like 5pm to 5:30 pacific. Michael has to stay in the area until then. This is coming from fans who were in court.

Just more on the extra time the jury are getting today.

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Post by whisper » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:38 pm

Andrew Goldberg(tsg/court tv): Mes has finished

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