Anyone else struggling to find closure with no official burial?

[Missy]

I'm tired of rumours surrounding a burial. I've heard Michael's been laid to rest twice now and I've just read a conflicting report that says his family are still deciding where to bury him. I appreciate the memorial so much, I really do, but it hasn't brought me the closure I was hoping for because I don't know what's happened to him since then. I know Michael's no longer there but what happens to his body really matters to me. I want to know when something happens, but I'm worried that even if the truth comes out I won't 100% believe it because it'll seem like another rumour. I'll only believe it if Michael's family, namely his mother, confirms something, but I'm scared she never will.

Anyone else feeling this way?

 

[pauline86]

according to joe jackson, MJ will finally be buried on august 29th at forest lawn

 

[SexyChica]

I understand where you're coming from. It's weird to hear Joe say Michael hasn't been laid to rest, but the media says he has (we all know how much to believe them, hell Joe isn't the best source either). I believe it's disrespectful to not lay someone to rest as soon as possible when they pass. It's been nearly two months Michael needs to be laid to rest.

 

[HeavenSent]

according to joe jackson, MJ will finally be buried on august 29th at forest lawn

Yeah. Rumur alert:

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2...ied_on_birthday_king_of_pops_father_says.html

Michael Jackson to be buried on birthday, King of Pop's father says
Monday, August 17th 2009, 4:00 AM


Klein/Reuters

Michael Jackson will be laid to rest on August 29, his father, Joe, says.

Michael Jackson's father, Joe, plans to return to Vegas after his son is buried to receive a celebrity star in the singer's honor at the Brenden Theatres.

Corkery/News
The elder Jackson indicated that the burial plans had been made final just in the past few days. He discussed the burial over ribs and jalapeño corn bread at the poolside Simon at Palms Place at the Palms hotel and casino.

With him was the stunningly beautiful Crystal Marven, a singer he has signed to his new record label, and her mother.

The elder Jackson says he will return to Vegas after his son is buried that Saturday to receive a celebrity star in the singer's honor at the Brenden Theatres, a cinema at the Palms that Michael Jackson and his children frequented. The Brenden will also screen the 1988 film "Moonwalker" that day.

Papa Jackson said he is supportive of the Los Angeles Police Department probe into his son's June 25 death so far - but also said that cops may be making Dr. Conrad Murray "the fall guy for a whole lot of people."

He did not elaborate. Murray was Michael Jackson's personal doctor and with him the day he died. Murray's lawyer has confirmed the Vegas-based doc is being investigated for administering the anesthetic Propofol and possibly other drugs. He denies wrongdoing.

A Vegas pharmacy was searched Aug. 11 for evidence Murray sought Propofol there.

Meanwhile, Joe Jackson, who lives separately from the singer's mom, Katherine, says she's taken Michael's death particularly hard, and frequently bursts out in tears.

Jackson said he had tried to see his son in the months before his death, but "the security guards wouldn't let me get to him."

He also dismissed talk that the Neverland mansion would be moved to Las Vegas as his daughter, La Toya Jackson, told reporters last week.

"How would they do that?" Jackson asked.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2...y_king_of_pops_father_says.html#ixzz0ORUp8PCR

 

[DirtyDiana87]

Hi Missy,

Just wanted to let you know that I feel the same way you do. I really do appreciate Michael's family putting together such a beautiful Memorial, I do. However I feel like you do, I don't feel like the fans have gotten to pay our respects like so many of us wanted to. So I completely understand how you feel. *HUGS*

 

[Ben]

Michael's no longer with us, and even though I've got use to the fact he's no longer with us. I will never find closure, because he should still be alive (it's his doctor or doctors fault Michael is dead) and a burial will make no difference to me because I/we are never going to see him again. And even writing this brings tears to my eyes, because this is something that shouldn't have happened.

 

[Saphster]

I know! I'm irritated that there is not freakin confirmation. I know it's not the world's business to know about where they will bury their son, but they understand how we fans feel about Michael. They know how much we are also suffering.

I really hope he was buried already. I cannot stand the thought of his body still above ground for 2 months after he's passed and he's still not buried yet?? MY GOD.......

 

[LittleSusie50]

I'm with Ben on this one, but...
I was watching this true life show, and this woman died under
suspicious circumstances, which only came to light
after she was buried. They weren't sure if she had been
injected with something by her husband, and they exhumed
her body TWICE! I couldn't believe it! So maybe they are making
sure they have what they need so they won't have to do that
with Michael. Maybe he is buried and they are just trying to
throw the media off. Look at how they followed the cars in traffic
for the private funeral for the family.
I hear you Ben.
Above or below ground, I'll NEVER have closure.
I have a tendency to take on things that are not my
business. That's his family's business.
The only way to survive is to let this whole thing
run its natural course and hold on to my best memories
of Michael...:8-26-03respect::michaeljacksonicon:

 

[R e a f u]

I'm with Ben on this one, but...
I was watching this true life show, and this woman died under
suspicious circumstances, which only came to light
after she was buried. They weren't sure if she had been
injected with something by her husband, and they exhumed
her body TWICE! I couldn't believe it! So maybe they are making
sure they have what they need so they won't have to do that
with Michael. Maybe he is buried and they are just trying to
throw the media off. Look at how they followed the cars in traffic
for the private funeral for the family.
I hear you Ben.
Above or below ground, I'll NEVER have closure.
I have a tendency to take on things that are not my
business. That's his family's business.
The only way to survive is to let this whole thing
run its natural course and hold on to my best memories
of Michael...:8-26-03respect::michaeljacksonicon:

I'm going to have to chime in with you and Ben on this one, I don't think I'll be able to find closure to this ever. Just looking back over the span of his career only makes me think of what he could have potentially done with his life and his work. It's an unfinished story to me, and we'll never get to have that proper ending. But definitely, I want to know for sure he's been laid to rest.

 

[Ben]

One of the reasons I will never find closure, is that the media got one of the two stories on Michael they wanted. Michael's career never ended in faillier, he continued to sell albums like Invincible that would be huge sales for other successful artists, Thriller25 was a huge success for a re-released album in 2008 and he sold out a record breaking 50 concerts at the O2.

Despite the media negativity, the pubic response to Michael whenever he appeared in public remained the same as from the Thriller era. To the media Michael had been too successful for too long, and he never released an album that flopped. So in 1993 and 2003 the media got the false child abuse stories, and the media know they were made up of lies but kept an angle on it to make Michael look guilty, but Michael still remained a huge success in music. They kept saying Michael was broke, but he still lived a live of a luxury. Then they said Michael was very ill and suffering from any type illness you could name. Bascially the media wanted a tragic end to Michael's live, prison or death and that got it in death. Michael was a strong man, and I know if he was alive he could have proved them wrong, and I'm angry and sad that the media got what they wanted even though Michael's death has backfired on the media with his musicial legacy comeback as more powerful than the nagative image of Michael they created.

 

[Saphster]

One of the reasons I will never find closure, is that the media got one of the two stories on Michael they wanted. Michael's career never ended in faillier, he continued to sell albums like Invincible that would be huge sales for other successful artists, Thriller25 was a huge success for a re-released album in 2008 and he sold out a record breaking 50 concerts at the O2.

Despite the media negativity, the pubic response to Michael whenever he appeared in public remained the same as from the Thriller era. To the media Michael had been too successful for too long, and he never released an album that flopped. So in 1993 and 2003 the media got the false child abuse stories, and the media know they were made up of lies but kept an angle on it to make Michael look guilty, but Michael still remained a huge success in music. They kept saying Michael was broke, but he still lived a live of a luxury. Then they said Michael was very ill and suffering from any type illness you could name. Bascially the media wanted a tragic end to Michael's live, prison or death and that got it in death. Michael was a strong man, and I know if he was alive he could have proved them wrong, and I'm angry and sad that the media got what they wanted even though Michael's death has backfired on the media with his musicial legacy comeback as more powerful than the nagative image of Michael they created.

I agree completely. It's like they wanted to see him fail, they hated him yet loved to talk about him so much. Why couldn't they just leave him alone? Why pick on just HIM constantly? I've never seen the media attack any other famous person as much as they have to Michael. Even in death...

 

[R e a f u]

To the media Michael had been too successful for too long, and he never released an album that flopped. So in 1993 and 2003 the media got the false child abuse stories, and the media know they were made up of lies but kept an angle on it to make Michael look guilty, but Michael still remained a huge success in music. They kept saying Michael was broke, but he still lived a live of a luxury. Then they said Michael was very ill and suffering from any type illness you could name. Bascially the media wanted a tragic end to Michael's live, prison or death and that got it in death. Michael was a strong man, and I know if he was alive he could have proved them wrong, and I'm angry and sad that the media got what they wanted even though Michael's death has backfired on the media with his musicial legacy comeback as more powerful than the nagative image of Michael they created.

I guess even when you're supposed to act like a rational and mature adult, some people just hate to see someone on top...sad.

 

[Ben]

I've never seen the media attack any other famous person as much as they have to Michael. Even in death...

Simple, a bit of subconcious racism for those that work in the media. I always found the title The Self-Proclaimed King of Pop (made up by MTV VJ Kurt Loader) as quite racist. Pete Townsend of the iconic rock band The Who is charged and cautioned for paying to view a child porn web site (he say's it was for research, a common excuse but who knows ?), the media say "Oh poor Pete" and the story is forgotten. Michael is accused of child abuse in 1993 and not charged of any kind of abuse, and Jordan Chandler refuses to co-operate with the Police when they could have forced him to if they actually had any evidence. The media don't report the out of court settlement accurately, and leave out the fact Jordan's father Evan lauched a civil lawsuit just weeks in to the police investigation. Which changed the law in California were people can no longer take out civil lawsuits until after a police instigation and trial. And also Michael was charged with 10 counts of child abuse, and cleared of all 10 plus no pornography of children showing Michael had no sexual interest in children. Yet the media perposly report the 1993 allegations and 2005 trial in a way to make Michael look guilty by not reporting the full facts. I can't help but think how differently the media would have treated Michael if he were not black. I just see racism in the media abuse of Michael, and in many years I think the public and even the media themselves will see that.

Why would Michael be the King of Pop, and as Eddie Murphy onces said how come Michael is just known as The Gloved One, when Elvis is The King, Frank Sinatra is Chairman of The Board, and Bruce Springsteen is The Boss. James Brown's The Godfather of Soul is ok with the media because soul music is seen as a minority music. But Michael a black man, who didn't fit the black streotype of a black man dominated Popular culture with his music longer than any other artist and was loved by people of all races. He was the King of Pop, the public know it and respect it and the media know it and hate it.

 

[JANIE]

I think as far as the burial is concerned; Michael's family would probably agree that they would have preferred Michael to have been laid to rest by now.

The delay in burying Michael has been caused by the repeat autopsies and the meticulous tests and gathering of evidence that the family feels is necessary. They need to establish what exactly happened to cause Michael's death - because they wish to see justice done. I am sure that since the circumstances surrounding Michael's death point so dramatically to wrong-doing, Michael himself would want justice. Justice for his family, that they have lost a son, a brother, an uncle. Justice for his children, that they have lost a father. And yes; justice for his fans, that we have lost him too.

The family have been generous in allowing a public memorial, and acknowledged Michaels fans need to grieve for him. There has been alot of talk about the family trying to arrange for Neverland to be Michael's resting place, clearly the negotiations surrounding this have been long, and complicated. Finding a place suitable, secure, and safe, for Michael to rest was never going to be the easiest of arrangements.

I can understand the need for closure; I am sure this is much worse for Michael's family. As fans, I don't think we can ask anymore of them then they have done already at such a difficult time.