Jeniffer30;231430 said:
For example in Moonwalker Michael says that he had plastic surgery on his nose and a cleft put in his chin. Later on Michael would deny that he had anything done to his chin.
Michael did tell little white lies, and tended to exaggerate things ie sometimes when the official sales of Thriller were around 60 million in 2003, Michael would say (as in Michael's Home Movie documentary) that Thriller had sold 65 million or more.
I can't remember Michael ever denying he had anything done to his chin, and I presume if he did deny it the interviewer will have been stating Michael had his whole chin changed by plastic surgery when he never did. Michael told Oprah he had a cleft added to his chin (if his chin was mentioned, as I haven't watch it in years but I know he didn't deny it), and he told Martin Bashir he only had his nose altered and a cleft put in to his chin. Considering how different looked even after his first plastic surgery in late 1978, Michael could never deny he had plastic surgery. But Michael never denied he had plastic surgery, he had it as Miko Brando said be he wanted to. It made Michael feel better, and never denied it and it was no big deal to him. I think Michael had 4 nose operations, the first 2 major ones the last 2 minor ones.
Michael always said just 2 nose operations, I didn't believe him but why should he say how many, such a pointless admission changes now ones life. Michael's face also changed because of growing up as a natural process like everyone elses, but any natural change was seen by the media as plastic surgery. Michael may not have been totally honest about his plastic surgery, but he was more accurate about the amount of surgery and what he had surgery on that the media, who went way of the scale with lies and exaggerations about the plastic surgery. They had Michael having plastic surgery almost every week in some documentaries, if there lies were true Michael would never have had time to tour and record music in the mid 1980's and to 1997. Oh year none plastic surgery things like Michael's hairstyle changed his appearance lot, plus Michael changed the shape of his eye brows also a none plastic surgery.
oldschoolfan;231442 said:
He broke his nose in the 70's and that was his first nose job.
Great post, but this part isn't actual factual. Michael having his first nose because of it being broken is an Ubran Myth, and one first mentioned by J.Randy Taraborrelli's 1991 edition of the Michael Jackson biography The Magic & The Madness. I presume Michael had his first nose job, because he didn't like his nose, for the same reason many famous people have done. But the fact is Michael never said he had it done because he didn't like his nose, just as he never said he broke his nose and had to have it done. All Michael has ever said about his nose is that he had it done twice, it helped him breath better and it higher notes. Unless Michael or medical records state why Michael had his nose done, it's not a fact and just a guess at best.
Michael's romances, with Tatum O'Neal and Brooke Sheilds. That is an interesting one, because I do believe Michael was in love with them and romantically interested in them. From what I've read in between the lines is that they were not sexual relationships but more puppy love. Michael's relationship with Tatum O'Neal is a tricky one, because he was supposed to be 17yrs old when he started seeing her and she was just 12yrs old. When there relationship ended in 1980 she would have been around 16-17yrs old and Michael around 21-22yrs old. I think their is some truth to what he said. There is another story, that Tatum and a female friend of her's tried to get Michael in to a threesome at a party, and when he refused they humiliated Michael in front of the guests and Michael left the party.
Tatum O'Neal spoke out about what Michael said "I was just twelve and not at all ready for a real-life encounter. Michael, who was sweating profusely, seemed as intimidated as I was. He jumped up nervously and said, 'Uh... gotta go.'"
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/tatum-o.neal-contradicts-jackson.s-seduction-story. Funny how Tatum was still being seen with Michael when he turned in to a superstar with the Off The Wall album. Tatum O'Neal has also said, that her agent wouldn't let her attend The Wiz premiere with Michael in 1978 because was African American, I believe this is true. But she also said (this is from a piece she wrote about MJ in VIBE magazine 1995 MJ cover story) Michael never spoke to her again, and that she never saw him again. Once again, funny how she's seen with Michael in these below photos from the Off The Wall era, and she also photographed with Michael at a concert by another artist in 1983-84, with Michael in disguse with a beard and an afro wig, and Tatum with her arm around Michael looking radiant with a big smile on her face like "I'm with Michael Jackson !!! ".
I presume this happened but it was when Tatum O'Neal was 16-17yrs maybe even 18yrs old (as Tatum and her brother are photographed with Michael backstage at The Jacksons, Triumph Tour in 1981 in the book "Before He Was King").I personally think Michael did date Tatum O'Neal, and she was his girlfriend but that relationship was just about being together, in love and holding hands and kissing. Tatum O'Neal does come a dysfuntional family who are prone to lying, so if people say Michael is lying and can also easily say Tatum O'Neal is lying. And people did disassociate themselves from Michael post 1993, like Brooke Shields than suddenly appears at Michael's memorial saying she was always close to Michael. Her tears were more guilt than sadness in my opinion.
I think sometimes (just an opinion not a fact) Brooke Shields was Michael's actual girlfriend, but she messed Michael around for years from 1980-93. I do feel that they will have kissed, there is a photo of them from around 1984 that is very boyfriend, girlfriend and up close to each other. Brooke Shields, told Rolling Stone Magazine that Michael proposed to her a number of times. So it does show that Michael was very serious and had feelings for her, and years after such as when he's talking to Brett Rattner in that 2003 video, he mentions having his room covered with photos of Brooke Shields. Michael did have to hots for her, it just wasn't fully reciprocated the way he wanted.
Another things about Michael's white lies and exaggerations, women also do it to Michael. Brooke Shields also isn't fully factual, at the memorial she said the last time she saw Michael was at Elisabeth Taylor's wedding at Neverland in 1991. At least in public she last saw Michael at the Grammy Awards (and aftershow party) in 1993, when she was Michael's date being seen out with him as his actual "girlfriend" for the first time and not just a date, after he told Oprah "right now it's Brooke Shields" when asked if he's dating. Whilst Michael was maybe really dating Brooke Shields ? in early 1993 he was also starting to see Lisa Marie Presley who he started to date before the 1993 false abuse allegation, whom he went on to marry. And whom Lisa Marie even said she had a sexual relationship with, even when she was trying to distance herself from Michael.
As Michael became a controversial figure, for his plastic surgery and because of the false child abuse lies which the media tried to make him look gulity, 3 of the women he loved did try to distance themselves from him when he became some one to ridicule, and to some extent they still do. For that reason I it's not just Michael, who's making up lies about a relationship, but at least 2 of the 3 women to are also lying that they were never his girlfriend. We will never know the truth about Tatum O'Neal (her father Ryan O'Neal came on to her at Farrah Fawcett's funereal, because he could recognise his own daughter) and Brooke Shields relationship but it is strange how when it was cool to like Michael Jackson in the 1970's to early 90's they wanted to be seen with Michael, then after that acted at least in Brooke Shields case like Michael was never part of her life until it was cool to like Michael after he had died.
Tatum O'Neal actually wrote a very sweat article about Michael in a 1995 cover story of VIBE magazine. Saying how Michael would play drums with both her and her brother Redmond, and Michael was so shy he wouldn't even sit on her bed. She said she loved Michael and that he's one of the nicest, most innocent people she has ever met. And say's she loves the song She's Out Of My Life, because it described there friendship at the time. A strange song to mention to to remember a "friendship" when that is a love song about being and love and hurt that it ended.
Michael's death must have hit Tatum hard, because not only was she once I believe Michael's girlfriend, but her more a less step mother Farrah Fawcett died the same day as Michael which is very sad.
