official May 10 2005 thread

BillieJeanLover

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A defense attorney is ultimately trying to put a reasonable doubt in the jury's minds that their client did not do the things said client is accused of. I didn't say they were trying to prove his innocence, although, some certainly try to do both.

I have the right to my opinion, and I am not the first to point out that some love to say things like "If Michael is convicted", etc, and bring up certain other negative things. How many posts have been deleted? How many times has Whisper asked people not to bring up this or that without any facts?

As I stated before, I never called any names, or stated who I think is or is not a true fan. The ones that are not, know who they are, and the ones that are, know who they are. Where is the problem? I also never stated that people should not discuss certain facts. But you will never convince me that some truly care about Micahel when every chance they get, they are bringing up negative, wrong, stupid, biased and sickening facts spun out by some media pundits and haters, or they just say the wrong thing. How is that helping anything? Where is the positive energy in all that?

And please don't tell me not to bring God up if I want to. And how dare you state that God has to be dragged anywhere? God is everywhere, and I have no doubt in my mind that just as it has been reported concerning Michael and Reverand Jackson praying EACH & EVERY morning, that it is true. Who are they praying to? There is a "Praying For Michael" thread on this board. Who are they praying to? God is real to some of us, and we certainly have been taught that God is all of our final judge. Do some think He doesn't judge us along the way? Those evil doers and haters of Michael will get theirs. Man's judgement might not get them, but God's Will. And of course, this is all my opinion.

Once and for all, I've already conceded that the verdict is up to the jury, and that in my opinion, some in the jury have already realized that the prosecution did not prove their case. And who was it that stated that the jury was not as smart as we were or some such nonsense? What??????????? Seemingly, they have heard up close and personal, first hand and in real time all of the evidence and therefore; they got us beat. What I believe is that some of them agree w/me and others that the accusers were bald faced liars, and that the prosecutor fabricated evidence and holds a serious bias and vendetta. They already see that. They are not dumb, deaf and blind. They are human beings just like we are.
 

HeavenSent

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I just listened to Trace Gallagher's report. I'm so frustrated w/the fixation on whether Michael has had healthy female relationships. You knew this was going to come up. Since the pros. is hell bent on proving that he hasn't had any, I wonder how the defense is going to counter this. Marcus could name hardly any female friends @ the top of his head, but that doesn't mean jack. So what now?

Please let's just end this issue once and for all in court. That's all I'm saying.
 

HeavenSent

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Everyone needs to chill a bit. Please stay ON TOPIC, and stop w/the attacks, y'all. Please. This thread is confusing as it is.
 

SpecialJanet25

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Let all take a deep breath and relax. I think this trial has put stress on all of us. The past 2 years of the media coverage has gotten crazy. No matter what happens, we must all stick together as a family. Let's all be strong and keep ours heads up. This fight is yet from over. Michael's defense team are doing an excellent job, ignore what these media idiots say. They always spin or twisted the truth. Stay Strong MJ Supporters, Stay Strong!!
 

Frenchy

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Originally posted by BillieJeanLover
Who and how are you? You don't tell me to calm nowhere.

No need to be so aggressive, we're all MJ fans here. Please be tolerant. :thumbsup Let's please just drop all that, this is getting way out of control. Let's agree to disagree and support Mike. Peace? :popcorn
 

SpecialJanet25

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Originally posted by BillieJeanLover
I am cool. Who and how are you? You don't tell me to calm nowhere. I leave that right to Whisper or a moderator. Thank you very much though.

My friend, relax! No ones attacking you. We are a family and we have to be strong. You need friend, I'm here. :wink
 

whisperAdmin

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
I just listened to Trace Gallagher's report. I'm so frustrated w/the fixation on whether Michael has had healthy female relationships. You knew this was going to come up. Since the pros. is hell bent on proving that he hasn't had any, I wonder how the defense is going to counter this. Marcus could name hardly any female friends @ the top of his head, but that doesn't mean jack. So what now?

Please let's just end this issue once and for all in court. That's all I'm saying.
I doubt Mike goes around introducing these women to ranch managers as "Hey Joe, I want you to meet the woman I'm screwing..." Uh, no. :lol:
The prosecution made a hollow "point" -- if you can call it that. But, again, this is someone who doesn't drink around people so what in the hell would make prosecutors think they could make a point by Marcus not knowing the names of Mike's women?
 

SpecialJanet25

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
Everyone needs to chill a bit. Please stay ON TOPIC, and stop w/the attacks, y'all. Please. This thread is confusing as it is.

Yeah, I know its stressful over this trial, but it will be over soon.
 

BillieJeanLover

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I agree with you HeavenSent. I posted on another thread that the proof is in the pudding. I just read an article on Google that some American teacher in Thailand was caught with over 500 porn mags about little boys. He had a heap of pictures also. He has been accused of molesting two boys. Oh but, they couldn't produce one mag like that in Michael's stash. And Lord and behold, they just couldn't get his prints on any either. But, we can imagine that they wished they could have.

The nonsense you brought up proves nothing, other than Michael didn't have to be in a relationship to live.
 

Cristine87

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Originally posted by whisper
Oh my goodness, so does Michael have to put all his sex partners on the stand to prove something? I don't like where this is going. That's an invasion of his privacy!
 

HeavenSent

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Originally posted by whisper
I doubt Mike goes around introducing these women to ranch managers as "Hey Joe, I want you to meet the woman I'm screwing..." Uh, no. :lol:

Lmao....soooooo true.

Which brings to something that I don't know why the hell I didn't think of before:

Why WOULD Michael, be open and free w/who who he decides brings inside his home? He's not obligated to share his personal biz, not even w/his closer employees. Like my mom says, "This is a need-to- know situation, and guess what? y'all don't need to know."
 

HeavenSent

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Originally posted by Cristine87
Oh my goodness, so does Michael have to put all his sex partners to court to prove something. I don't like where this is going. That's an invashion of his privacy!
But you knew this was coming. it's anything and everything about Michael that's on parade right now.
 

MJ'sWife#3

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Originally posted by whisper
I doubt Mike goes around introducing these women to ranch managers as "Hey Joe, I want you to meet the woman I'm screwing..." Uh, no. :lol:
:crackingu LOL! That made me laugh so hard. You make a very good point. Besides, it's not like Michael has an obligation to tell the ranch people or if they really care who his lady friends are. It's nobodys business... :nonono: Pu-lease.

*Kelly*
 

mjfannn

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Hay this is mjfannn. I just want to tuch base with you all on somthing I said last night regarding the way the media has twisted the information they'v been showing the public (1.) remember that for the first time in history the D.A's office is useing the help of a pr firm , so that explains why we are hearing about somthing this witness has said in a police intrview long ago and the media makeing it look like this is testimony that helps the prosecution. just some food for thought. :ratingsho
 

coco

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Crap !
see how media and all is twisting the facts and the way a trial is supposed to happen !!!

MICHAEL doesn't have to prove he is innocent
MICHAEL doesn't have to prove he is straight or gay

Prosecution has to prove he did something wrong, and sorry but so far, they DID NOT !
I can't stand seeing all the facts turned away, and each time we learn more about this ugly family, it looks like Mike has to justofy himself more, for what ? for being himself !
 

Frenchy

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
it's anything and everything about Michael that's on parade right now.

Totally. Let's call Debbie Rowe back to the stand. Let's call Lisa Marie Presley. Let's all have a good laugh. :lol:

Seriously, this is ludicrous. The persecution is clearly desperate. But hey they've already asked Wade to confirm that he were straight... That's a clear indicator that sooner or later Mike's sexuality will be questioned. However, I don't think that it's an invasion of privacy -- in a country like the US, one's sexuality is nobody's business but it's not an invasion of privacy to ask someone if they're gay or straight. But of course, discrimination is wrong. And Mike should not have to prove that is straight by calling women to testify. And anyway, if (I'm saying "IF" so don't make me say what I did not say! :lol: ) he were gay, it would mean he's a pedophile or is more likely to be? That is clearly where it is going and it is completely outrageous. :screaming
 

HeavenSent

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Originally posted by BillieJeanLover
... some American teacher in Thailand was caught with over 500 porn mags about little boys. He had a heap of pictures also. He has been accused of molesting two boys. Oh but, they couldn't produce one mag like that in Michael's stash. And Lord and behold, they just couldn't get his prints on any either. But, we can imagine that they wished they could have.
Call me Carla :thumbsup ;)

And see, that's the problem that the prosecution created. They tried to stuff Michael into the classic pedophile profile by force feeding us with the illusion that Michael's into child erotica. You can't even look to 99% of the media to report the opposite side. Please. The media ain't no better. It's easier to create a monster than it is to justify decency.

Perception. That's all it is.

That's why Michael can't seem to get a fair shake w/so many folks. :thumbsdow
 

Cristine87

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Originally posted by coco
Crap !
see how media and all is twisting the facts and the way a trial is supposed to happen !!!

MICHAEL doesn't have to prove he is innocent
MICHAEL doesn't have to prove he is straight or gay

Prosecution has to prove he did something wrong, and sorry but so far, they DID NOT !
I can't stand seeing all the facts turned away, and each time we learn more about this ugly family, it looks like Mike has to justify himself more, for what ? for being himself !
Thank You! I am outraged that they are even trying to take it there! Michael is not conventional, he's not like other men. Just because he doesn't go exploiting women doesn't mean he doesn't have a relationship with them. They couldn't prove he molested this kid, so now they wanna attack his sexual orientation. That's bullshit! I feel so bad for Michael because he tries so hard to have some sort of private life & these people just want to put all his business on display just to humiliate him, those ****ing bastards from hell!
 
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