Official May 19 2005 Thread


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Originally posted by NevaehDreamz
Mez questioned Aja if Janet ever said she needed to escape from nevvy. Aja with
a big smile said, no. Mez asked why was she smiling and Aja said that "It's Neverland, who would want to escape!!"


I don't know why, but when I read that I thought of Michael. :laugh

I love that :thumbsup


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mimijo9505 (MJJF)

CTV report that Aja came back after the DCFS interviews and was asked by Janet to take the kids back to Nevvy and she was excited (Janet) to go and get documents to present for her passport to Brazil


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Aja Pryor

Michael La Perruque, Michael Jackson's former head of security


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Wildcats (MJJF)

According to Ted Rowland Pryor testified that the mother told her in March that Michael associates were keeping the boys away from Michael.


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Originally posted by NevaehDreamz
If Larry King had testified there would have been.

I don't like a lot of the ways of this system. Judges should be required to give reasons for their rulings. For all we know that bastard could have rejected King's testimony because he doesn't like Larry King.

Still, this doesn't really hurt the case...the jury already KNOWS Jan-nut is wacko, she demonstrated that herself. The whole existence of Feldman is good for Michael, because Jan-nut's going to Feldman in the first place shows all she wanted was money. There's really no reason to impeach Feldman that I can see.


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Fantasy Island

A Family's Bermuda Vacation Was Transformed by Michael Jackson

By Tamara Jones
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 19, 2005; C01

Alan Goldstein and his wife, Lynn, remember they were busy getting ready to take a nice family vacation with their youngest son, Brock, and his best pal, Mac, when they overheard Brock on the phone with Mac, saying something to the effect of yeah, sure, bring him along, too.

This is how pop superstar Michael Jackson appeared at their hotel in Bermuda with a bandage on his nose, a shy smile on his famous face, and a trunkful of squirt guns, race cars and stink bombs on his bed in the VIP suite.

Nice to meet you, the Goldsteins said, or something to that effect.

Fourteen years have passed, but like some postcard from the edge, the Goldsteins' vacation has now come under the scrutiny of 12 strangers sitting in a California jury box.

And once again, Michael Jackson has popped into the lives of a hotel executive, his teacher wife and their son, now a 24-year-old bartender who finds it all "just so crazy."

But what the jury in Jackson's child molestation trial recently heard about that week in Bermuda and what the Goldsteins remember prove to be two entirely different stories: One evokes the image of a creepy predator using a gold Rolex to bait a starstruck kid; the other, of a lonely celebrity trying to reclaim a forsaken childhood by lobbing water balloons at tourists.

The surreal island idyll began when Brock Goldstein, a sometime actor in Orlando, met Macaulay Culkin on a movie set and the two 10-year-olds became fast friends. After his hit "Home Alone" was released that year, Mac Culkin made another new friend, as well: Michael Jackson.

"That sounds like fun. Mind if I tag along?" Culkin would remember Jackson saying when he mentioned the upcoming Bermuda trip with his buddy Brock.

Although prosecutors would later suggest that Jackson crashed the party, Alan Goldstein recalls that the family had been in Bermuda for a few days and had just gotten off their mopeds when the hotel relayed a message to please call "Mr. M. Jackson."

The world's best-selling voice came on the other line. "Well, I just need a break," Jackson explained. "Would you mind?" Goldstein, who grew up in Wheaton, started scrambling to find suitable quarters, until Jackson called back and said he had it all arranged -- two suites at the luxe Hamilton Princess. Goldstein swallowed hard.

"I can't afford that," he admitted.

"Don't worry," Jackson assured him, "everything's on me."

He turned up the next day in "his standard red shirt, black pants, yellow socks and wide-brim hat," Goldstein, now 60, recalled in a telephone interview from his home in Las Vegas. Jackson invited the gang up to his suite.

"He'd brought this huge trunk. He threw it up on the bed and opened it up," Goldstein says. "It looked like he'd raided a Toys R Us. He's got water guns, race cars, chewing gum that made your mouth turn black, snap-and-pops . . . "

While Lynn Goldstein mopped up behind them with Turkish towels, the two grown men and two small boys raced around the suite in a Supersoaker war.

It was great fun, the Goldstein menfolk now reminisce.

"It was a nightmare" is how Lynn good-naturedly puts it.

Jackson came to Bermuda alone, and the role of surrogate-manager fell to Lynn, who made sure the star's meals were vegetarian and that hotel management kept away fans. Jackson's trip made the local press, and then the international media.

For nearly two weeks, first in Bermuda and then back in Orlando at Disney World, the Goldsteins found themselves immersed in the other world of stardom with a benefactor they considered both weird and wonderful.

But with Jackson on board, dreams of sunny days on the beach disappeared, and they all became Vacationers of the Night, venturing out in the wee hours to protect Jackson and Culkin from being mobbed. That meant 2 a.m. dips in the hotel pool, room service instead of restaurants, shopping trips arranged after stores closed to the public.

Jackson tried to compensate for the inconveniences.

"We were talking one day about how it might be fun to try diving," Alan Goldstein said, "and next thing you know, we've got a dive boat to ourselves with some dive masters to teach us."

When the family wanted to see a variety show at one of the island's resort hotels, the cast put on a private performance at 1 in the morning in an otherwise empty auditorium, the Goldsteins said. "There was a Michael Jackson impersonator, which was a little awkward, but Michael was fine with it," says Alan Goldstein.

Brock Goldstein remembers the "once-in-your-lifetime" excitement of his favorite music star suddenly becoming a playmate. He remembers Jackson pulling out a small laser light and taking the boys out on the balcony to shine the beam down on bewildered beachgoers.

"We'd try to get them to follow it," Brock recalls. "We'd be calling out: 'Follow the red liiiiight, follow the red liiiight. The red light has a present for you! Look, it's a red balloon!' " The three would then hurl water balloons at their targets, ducking behind the balcony to collapse in laughter.

The vacationers headed back to Orlando, where the Goldsteins then lived, and holed up in separate suites at a Disney World hotel to enjoy the theme park for a week.

Summer after summer drifted by. The Goldsteins tucked away their photo albums and lost touch with both Jackson and Culkin.

They returned from vacation this week to find a phone message from a Santa Barbara County sheriff's investigator. What he wants they're not sure. But their names have already become part of the court record in People v. Michael Joe Jackson .

Prosecutors -- allowed under California law to introduce unproven allegations from Jackson's past to bolster the present charge that he fondled a 13-year-old cancer survivor -- cross-examined Culkin last week. Had he not slept in Michael Jackson's bed? Had he not spent unchaperoned hours with Jackson at his Neverland ranch? And what, they wanted to know, about that trip to Bermuda? All perfectly innocent, Culkin asserts.

The prosecution team would suggest in their questions to Culkin that the Goldsteins had been wary of Jackson. Had they not confronted him about the inappropriateness of giving the child a Rolex when he greeted Culkin with one engraved "From Michael Jackson"? Culkin drew a blank.

So do the Goldsteins.

Nor do they agree with the prosecution's portrayal of them putting their foot down over Jackson taking Mac on private side-trips in Bermuda. "That never happened," declares Lynn Goldstein, now 61, her recollection mirroring those of her husband, her son and Culkin when he took the witness stand.

Further, the Goldsteins complain, no one bothered to ask them what happened before making their vacation a footnote in a major criminal trial.

Investigators did question them back in 1993, they said, after allegations surfaced that Jackson had molested a young boy.

"They said, 'We have a victim, we believe him, and we're going to get [Jackson]. He fits the profile.' I didn't like that. I wanted to know what evidence they had," Lynn Goldstein recalls.

She told them then what she repeats today: Nothing improper ever happened, the kids slept in their own room in the Goldstein suite on a separate floor from Jackson's, and Jackson "never once tried to get the guys alone. The boys would have sort of like sibling rivalry over his attention, and Michael's the one who would step up and say no, we're doing things together, with all of us."

As a teacher at Laurel High School, and then later in Florida, Lynn Goldstein noted, she knew the warning signs of child abuse, and "I've even had to report it on occasion." She felt sorry for Jackson, not frightened.

During one conversation in Bermuda, she recalled, Jackson turned to her and said wistfully: "'You know, kids are different than adults. Kids are honest with you. You can trust them. I haven't met an adult who has been my friend without ending up wanting something from me.' "

"He was like one of us," Brock Goldstein says of Jackson, now 46, and his childlike antics in Bermuda. "It makes perfect sense to me because he never had a childhood. Obviously he's not normal. He had a twisted upbringing."

Like his parents, he hates the sinister questions being raised now about a fond memory. "I'd like to be done with it, but at the same time, if people are saying things we didn't say, it needs to be cleared up," Brock says. He figures nothing will ever top that magical summer when he hung out with the biggest pop star in the world.

"I mean, where do you go from there?" he wonders.

And more to the point, who comes along?



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As posted here alreay, this is what Wildcats at MJJF posted:

According to Ted Rowland Pryor testified that the mother told her in March that Michael associates were keeping the boys away from Michael. Rowland said that was a big deal how could you molest the boys if you not around them. He said they thought she would be on the stand most of the rest of the day.
Funny as hell! :lol:


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Thanks for the article Whisper. I saw that this morning as well. This D.A is so desparate that he tried to turn these people into victims as well. Is anyone but us paying attention to this?

I think these folks are like the rest of MJ's real friends they quickly see his true spirit and his natural affection. The prosecutor tried to make it seem like MJ took their vacation for his own selfish desires. He talked with the parents and invited himself, through Mac, like the hornorable person he is. There is a hugh difference between the "victims" of '93 and '03 and Sneddon's fanatasy "victims" like Mac, Wade, this family, etc. Sneddon's fantasy "victims" saw the real Michael, the '93 and '03 "victims" saw his wallet.

My thoughts.


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CTV Update:

Videographer now on the stand. Defense wants to show 20 minute video of Neverland, judge is watching the video now outside presence of jury, then he will decide if the jury gets to see it. This is what Sneddon calls a "puff" piece.

do somebody know who this videographer is ?


Thanks so much for that article! The defense should call them.


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Court TV: Judge rules that the jury can see a 19 minute video of Neverland, including scenes of Mike's bedroom.


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Thanx for that update!!!

This could make up for that NL visit that the defence requested for the jury in the beginning of the trial but was denied by the judge.

Just curious....does court end at 2:00 p.m.??? I'm still not sure, I live on the east coast.


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Friend testifies accuser's family never complained about Jackson's behavior
By Quintin Cushner/Staff Writer

A former close friend of the family accusing Michael Jackson of false imprisonment and child molestation testified in Superior Court in Santa Maria today that the family never complained about the entertainer's behavior.

Witness Azja Pryor said she had frequent phone conversations with the family in February and March of 2003, when Jackson was alleged to have committed crimes against the family.

During those conversations, the family praised Jackson and never accused him of any wrong going, Pryor testified.

Although the mother of the accuser earlier testified that she was forced to do a rebuttal interview praising Jackson, Pryor said the woman was looking forward to setting the record straight that nothing inappropriate ever happened between Jackson and her son.

"She was very tell the world that this friendship was nothing more than what they say - a beautiful friendship," Pryor testified.

The mother also had testified that there were plans for her family to be taken to Brazil against their wishes.

Pryor testified that the mother had invited her to go to Brazil for a holiday.

"She said that they were going to Brazil for Carnival," Pryor said.

The witness testified that the mother later expressed hesitance to go to Brazil, and in fact the family never made the trip.

Pryor also testified that the mother complained associates of Jackson were preventing her family from seeing the singer in March 2003. During this time period, Jackson is charged with molesting the then-13-year-old boy.

Pryor said the mother was effusive in her praise of Jackson.

"What a great man he is. He's an angel. His love is great," are among the statements Pryor attributed to the mother.

Pryor, who met the family in 1999, said she ceased contact with them in April 2003, but did not explain why.

Earlier in the day, Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville barred CNN talk show host Larry King from testifying for the defense in the case.

Dressed in a dark suit, purple shirt and his trademark black eyeglasses, King briefly took the witness stand outside the jury's presence to describe a conversation he had with civil attorney Larry Feldman.

King said Feldman, who at the time was representing the family of Jackson's accuser, told him he doubted the credibility of the claims against Jackson.

According to King, Feldman made disparaging remarks about the accuser's mother.

"He thought the woman in this case was a Michael..." King said. "He just thought she was in it for the money."

King could not identify the time period of this conversation, which occurred at a Beverly Hills deli, but said it was before the trial against Jackson began.

Melville ruled that King's conversation with Feldman was not sufficient to impeach earlier testimony given by the attorney in court.

"I don't find that Mr. King's testimony would impeach Mr. Feldman," Melville said.

Feldman had earlier testified that he believed the family claims, and that money did not seem to be an issue for them.

Also today, book publisher Michael Viner, who also was present at the deli with King, gave a similar account of what Feldman had said. His testimony likewise was disallowed by the judge.

Jackson, 46, has pleaded not guilty to four counts of molesting the 13-year-old boy and four counts of administering alcohol to help him with the alleged lewd acts. He also has pleaded not guilty to the conspiracy charge involving abduction, false imprisonment and extortion and a count of attempted child molestation.

The Santa Maria Times, following its established policy, is not identifying those who allege they were abused by Jackson, even though they are being named in court.
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Court TV: Judge rules that the jury can see a 19 minute video of Neverland, including scenes of Mike's bedroom.

This is important, because people keep thinking MJ's bedroom is the typical tiny room, not realizing it is actually like a two story suite...... So this is pretty good that the jury will get to actually see what the room looks like...


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MSNBC update, Jennifer London reported :

- the judge allowed the defense to play a video

- the video is a test of the alarm in MJ's room

- the defense argues that this alarm would go off if someone entered the hallway and MJ would know that someone enetered

- the video shows a maid they used to demonstrate in the video, walk in and you would hear the alarm go off


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Jackson Witness Testifies on Inaccuracies
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent

SANTA MARIA, Calif. - The mother of Michael Jackson's accuser complained that she and her children were being kept away from the pop star during the time period prosecutors say one of her sons was being molested, a witness testified Thursday.

Azja Pryor, a Hollywood casting assistant and the girlfriend of movie star Chris Tucker, said the mother complained to her in early March 2003 that two German associates of Jackson had stepped in to keep her family away.

"I asked, 'Does Michael know anything about this?' She said, 'They won't let us around him because they know the children tug at his heart strings,'" Pryor testified.

The time period she cited is critical because prosecutors allege Jackson molested the then-13-year-old accuser between Feb. 20 and March 12, 2003.

When the accuser's mother testified in the trial, she bitterly spoke out against "the Germans" and claimed they were conspiring with Jackson to hold her family captive.

Pryor began her testimony with a few tears, talking about how she met the family in 2001 when the boy was battling cancer. She said she and the boy's mother would talk for hours at a time on the phone, but the mother never complained to her about Jackson.

Pryor took the stand after Judge Rodney S. Melville refused to allow the defense to present testimony by CNN's Larry King that attorney Larry Feldman, who once represented the accuser's mother, had told him the mother was "wacko" and out for money.

The judge ruled out testimony by the talk show host and another man present at the conversation on grounds they were not able to say the lawyer directly quoted the accuser's mother.

King left the court without appearing before the jury, and the defense moved on to Pryor in its bid to discredit the accuser's mother.

In addition to molestation, Jackson, 46, is accused of giving the boy wine and conspiring to hold his family captive to get them to rebut a TV documentary in which Jackson said he let children sleep in his bed but that it was non-sexual.

Pryor smiled as she told Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. that the accuser's mother never told her she had tried to escape from Neverland.

"Why are you smiling?" asked Mesereau.

"It's Neverland," said the witness. "I don't know who would ever want to escape Neverland."


Associated Press Writer Tim Molloy contributed to this report.