Official March 28 2005 Thread

Tamiele

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
Go read the transcripts of Michael's interview with Jesse Jackson. Jesse reminded him that God won't give him more than he can handle. Michael wasn't brought to these great lengths to just throw in the towel. Our perceived stepbacks, may not be neccessarily his personal own. Michael is not going to surrender physically OR mentally. He might very well being adding another layer of armor for all we know.

I know this seems tedious, but we can't keep going from "Michael is so strong!" to "I don't know if Michael can handle this." We have to stay consistently strong, despite all of the so called setbacks, that's our whole reason for being here day after day.


Thank you, HeavenSent, for saying that. I couldn't agree with you more.
 

SpecialJanet25

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Originally posted by HeavenSent
Go read the transcripts of Michael's interview with Jesse Jackson. Jesse reminded him that God won't give him more than he can handle. Michael wasn't brought to these great lengths to just throw in the towel. Our perceived stepbacks, may not be neccessarily his personal own. Michael is not going to surrender physically OR mentally. He might very well being adding another layer of armor for all we know.

I know this seems tedious, but we can't keep going from "Michael is so strong!" to "I don't know if Michael can handle this." We have to stay consistently strong, despite all of the so called setbacks, that's our whole reason for being here day after day.

Carla, absolutely right. This is been two years of hell. Dana, I'm trying of it too and its waste of time. Do you see Michael's showing signs of throw in the towel? Do you see any signs that he's suidical? Absolutely Not! Although I keep putting negative vibes to myself in the past that Michael is going to commit suicide if he's convicted and all hell will break loose if that happens. But Michael once me and all us as fans to be strong for him. He's knows he's innocent and we knows and believe him. The defense is going fight very very hard and we need to give them the strength they need to fight the false charges once and for all.
 

Cristine87

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I'm still curious as to how Sneddon is gonna prove that Michael molested these fiver other boys when only one other is gonna testify. What? He's just gonna bring in five past allegations & just expect the jury to swoon? Three of those five kids denied anything happened & another is not gonna testify, WTF? June Chandler is gonna testify? She's gonna have to explain that $20 million settlement. "Oh, we were so horrified we had to be put in the Witness Protection Program or else we would've testified", STFU!
 

DarkChild

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Ewww 93's in? Well, it just goes to show that the pros have like, nothing else! They're just padding it out to make it look like some whopping case with like, a tonne of evidence...it's like eating potato to fill you up. God.

And Michael Michael Michael, my oh my aren't we looking hot today ;)
 
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Anonymous

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The prosecution is reduced now to trying to
5 prove that Janet Arvizo did not always directly ask
6 for money, and yet the overwhelming proof is going
7 to be that she didn't directly ask for it, she
8 indirectly did, and received it. And that's going
9 to be absolutely proven beyond any doubt when the
10 case is finally to the jury. Because we have
11 witnesses coming in our case that nobody has seen
12 yet.

Mesereau <3
 

Cristine87

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I was debating with this other girl on this website & I told her that Chandler didn't want to testify & her argument is "he's probably scared of the rabid fans, you know the ones" I almost fell out of my chair laughing at her stupidity.
 
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Anonymous

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Originally posted by Cristine87
I was debating with this other girl on this website & I told her that Chandler didn't want to testify & her argument is "he's probably scared of the rabid fans, you know the ones" I almost fell out of my chair laughing at her stupidity.


We haven't seen this ****ed up family since LWMJ. If they can do all this w/o being hunted down by rabid fans, Chandler can as well.
 

whisperAdmin

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Staff member
Mesereau wasn't playin'!

Excerpt from today's testimony:
3761
15 Now, the fourth alleged victim is Jason
16 Francia. Jason Francia and his mother were
17 interviewed by the sheriffs and a deposition of the
18 mother was taken. Money was paid to settle that
19 case, again because Mr. Jackson didn't want the
20 press, didn't want his family going through it, and
21 wanted to pursue his music career. There never was
22 a criminal prosecution, even though the alleged
23 victim was interviewed by the Los Angeles District
24 Attorney and the Santa Barbara District Attorney
25 together. And after their interview with Jason
26 Francia - which was so wishy-washy about what
27 happened, they never decided to pursue a criminal
28 case, because there wasn't one. We have that taped

3762
1 interview - the mother, in a civil deposition in the
2 Chandler litigation, began by saying she saw
3 something and ended by saying she saw nothing. And
4 indeed, stories were sold to tabloids, and money was
5 paid to settle. He appears to be the only alleged
6 victim they want to bring in.
7 Five, Wade Robeson, who tells us nothing
8 ever happened to him. And they don't propose to
9 bring him in as an alleged victim. They want to
10 bring in the gang that basically has tried to accuse
11 Mr. Jackson and get money from him for years,
12 generally unsuccessfully, with the exception of
13 Miss -- Mr. Francia's mother, and I've just talked
14 about the problems in her sworn statement in
15 discovery. The deposition is clear, she begins by
16 saying, "I think I saw something." She ends by
17 saying, "I didn't see anything."
18 Six, Jimmy Safechuck, who we are informed
19 says nothing happened. They don't propose to call
20 him as an alleged victim either, but they've got the
21 same old gang again coming in to try and capitalize
22 on the case, people who have been adjudged to be
23 liars, and they are. People who asked for money
24 from tabloids, who've asked for money from Mr.
25 Jackson, et cetera.
26 Seven, Jonathan Spence, who we are informed
27 says nothing happened and doesn't intend to come in
28 to support them at all. What do they want to do?

3763
1 Bring in the same crew again. Third-party witnesses
2 with an axe to grind, all of whom have wanted money
3 in the past, none of whom can substantiate that
4 anything happened because the alleged victim says
5 nothing happened.
6 The bulk of their 1108 evidence, Your Honor,
7 are third parties with axes to grind, and who have
8 tried to get money, and gotten money, and had the
9 problems I just identified. Where is the fairness
10 in allowing that kind of testimony, that kind of
11 evidence, when their underlying case looks so weak
12 and so problematic?

Members DL the transcript: http://forums.mjeol.com/showthread.php?t=5294

:popcorn
 

megan23

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you know after reading this I ain't worried, I admit I was earlier but God i son Michael's side and so are we....if anything Sneddon has given Mez the greenlight to finally clear Mike's name FULLY. :popcorn As far as the "current case" all this crap about the father I say it was a damn team effort, the father just left that mess and that crazy ass mother continued the scheming on her own. The mother not being called speaks volumes as does the 93 accuser NOT testifying.
 
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Anonymous

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Originally posted by whisper
Mesereau wasn't playin'!

Excerpt from today's testimony:
3761
15 Now, the fourth alleged victim is Jason
16 Francia. Jason Francia and his mother were
17 interviewed by the sheriffs and a deposition of the
18 mother was taken. Money was paid to settle that
19 case, again because Mr. Jackson didn't want the
20 press, didn't want his family going through it, and
21 wanted to pursue his music career. There never was
22 a criminal prosecution, even though the alleged
23 victim was interviewed by the Los Angeles District
24 Attorney and the Santa Barbara District Attorney
25 together. And after their interview with Jason
26 Francia - which was so wishy-washy about what
27 happened, they never decided to pursue a criminal
28 case, because there wasn't one. We have that taped

3762
1 interview - the mother, in a civil deposition in the
2 Chandler litigation, began by saying she saw
3 something and ended by saying she saw nothing. And
4 indeed, stories were sold to tabloids, and money was
5 paid to settle. He appears to be the only alleged
6 victim they want to bring in.
7 Five, Wade Robeson, who tells us nothing
8 ever happened to him. And they don't propose to
9 bring him in as an alleged victim. They want to
10 bring in the gang that basically has tried to accuse
11 Mr. Jackson and get money from him for years,
12 generally unsuccessfully, with the exception of
13 Miss -- Mr. Francia's mother, and I've just talked
14 about the problems in her sworn statement in
15 discovery. The deposition is clear, she begins by
16 saying, "I think I saw something." She ends by
17 saying, "I didn't see anything."
18 Six, Jimmy Safechuck, who we are informed
19 says nothing happened. They don't propose to call
20 him as an alleged victim either, but they've got the
21 same old gang again coming in to try and capitalize
22 on the case, people who have been adjudged to be
23 liars, and they are. People who asked for money
24 from tabloids, who've asked for money from Mr.
25 Jackson, et cetera.
26 Seven, Jonathan Spence, who we are informed
27 says nothing happened and doesn't intend to come in
28 to support them at all. What do they want to do?

3763
1 Bring in the same crew again. Third-party witnesses
2 with an axe to grind, all of whom have wanted money
3 in the past, none of whom can substantiate that
4 anything happened because the alleged victim says
5 nothing happened.
6 The bulk of their 1108 evidence, Your Honor,
7 are third parties with axes to grind, and who have
8 tried to get money, and gotten money, and had the
9 problems I just identified. Where is the fairness
10 in allowing that kind of testimony, that kind of
11 evidence, when their underlying case looks so weak
12 and so problematic?

Members DL the transcript: http://forums.mjeol.com/showthread.php?t=5294

:popcorn


..and melville still brought it in.
 

Cristine87

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Damn, Mez is gonna kill 'em! & they still have to make the mother testify. This'll be interesting. I could just see Mez's closing statements "Ladies & Gentlemen of the jury, the majority of people that you've seen testify against my client have tried to seek out financial compensation as we've proven with official documents..."
 
this is GREAT.

Seeing that whore Nancy Grace on CNN really pissed me off and worried me to no end til I came to MJEOL and saw all the info that SHE left out. (did you see how she was yelling at Jesse Jackson? OUCH! She's such a loser.)

Bringing in 93 is good. It will finally expose Michael's innocence FOR GOOD. No more clouds of the past, no nothing.

WTF? 5 witnesses and they didn't go to the police, yeh I'm gonna believe that. *cracks a coconut over her own head. XD*

yay!
 

dangerous

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Now, the Court hasn't seen the mother yet. And we wish the Court would see the mother before it makes its decision, because everything I'm arguing to the Court is going to be magnified a million times when she testifies.
:tooexcite

Now, they can phrase it in any terminology
9 they want, they can say it's evidence of modus
10 operandi, intent, blah blah. But the reality is,
11 they're trying to bring in character evidence to
12 bolster a separate charge. And any time you do
13 that, the Court has to be concerned with the
14 possibility of prejudice.
:lol:

Nowhere can we find they are just
7 willy-nilly bringing in third-party witnesses to say
8 they saw something without bringing the alleged
9 victim in. Yet that is exactly what 99 percent of
10 the evidence they plan to bring in is.
:lol: @ willy nilly



They probably couldn't win a civil case if they were
13 pursuing a civil case based on nothing but third
14 parties. Yet they want to do it in a criminal case
15 without any of these alleged victims coming in, with
16 the exception of one, who is problematic, and I will
17 explain that to the Court.

Who are their main witnesses? Their main
5 witnesses sued Mr. Jackson in the mid '90s, and for
6 the first time Mr. Jackson decided, "I'm tired of
7 settling these stupid cases, I'm actually going to
8 defend this one." It resulted in the longest civil
9 trial in the history of this courthouse.
:lol:

and indeed, there was
3 never any criminal prosecution despite Mr. Sneddon's
4 noble efforts to try and do one.
:lol: noble

One, Brett Barnes, who they say is not
2 coming in. They want to bring in four witnesses.
3 Two, Jordie Chandler, they want to bring in five
4 witnesses. Three, Macaulay Culkin, they want to
5 bring in four witnesses. Four, Jason Francia, they
6 want to bring in himself and his mother. Five, Wade
7 Robeson, they want to bring in five witnesses.
:yuk
 
damn, Mr. Mesereau is not playin indeed. And I think bringing up past allegations is good for Michael cuz in that way, his name would be cleared from ALL of this crap and people will not dare to say he's a paedo *god, that word just makes me sick* btw, Michael is looking very confident and fine today!
 

privacy

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Wow.. I hate t hese threads that make your emotions go here there n everywhere readin it through :laugh

Ok.. This is alright. It doesn't really change anything, except give the media more crap to write and twist.

What is Sneddon playing at bringing in people who've denied anything happened?! I mean.. Mac for one has always said he loves and supports Mike, and nothing untoward happened between them.. jesus.

I'm completely fine with this... just hopin the jury will see past this feeble trick.
 
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