Official May 11 2005 thread

[got2makeitright]

from mjjf

Mac was also asked why he and MJ had a "special bond" and he went into a very touching story about how they had similar childhoods, where they were just thrown into the limelight without any notice.

*Court TV - DD*

Left off where Savannah G. stopped.

- Said that TS ask Mac (on re-re-cross) what did he think of the adult material with the boys. And also females "inserting" things inside themselves. And mac said that he doesn't find anything wrong with having the material and that we are ALL ADULTS HERE. There's nothing wrong with it at all

 

[Anonymous]

This guy is a very good wintess. Way to go Macaulay Culkin.

 

[sistahlamb]

THERE YOU GO MAC. Mac answered all of the innuendo PERFECTLY. FREAKING PERFECTLY. THey asked Mac about all of the porn and whether it was consistent with him being "child-like" and he said "absolutely yes" and that just becaues he was child like didn't mean that he still wasn't an adult. WOW...YES MAC YES.


In a follow-up, Zonen asked if Culkin had ever slept with any other 35-year-old men. "Not that I remember," the actor testified. "But I wasn't friends with any other 35-year-old men who understood me."

F**king brilliant answers.

Is he still on the stand???

 

[whisperAdmin]

MJEOL News Update #1
(from the main page)

MAY 11 2005 (12:30 PM ET) -- Mac Culkin has testified that he was never molested by Michael Jackson, directly shooting down previous testimony from prosecution 1108 witnesses.

The jury has now heard from 3 of the prosecution-alleged "victims", who have testified under oath and before the world, that they were never molested or touched inappropriately by Jackson.

Some observers say that everything now is ancillary and there is nothing the prosecution can do under cross-examination that will blunt the fact that all 3 of these now young men have refuted false allegations from prosecution witnesses.

While others complain that it's really a shame they've had to come to court to testify in the first place because neither Culkin, Brett Barnes, nor Wade Robson have ever accused Jackson of molestation. Not 12 years ago and not now.

According to Steve Edwards (Fox 11 News), Culkin was asked what he thought of the charges against Jackson and he replied "Absolutely ridiculous."

He also testified that he has never seen Jackson act inappropriately with any other child either, according to updates from thesmokinggun.com.

Also according to thesmokinggun.com and shockingly enough, Culkin also testified that the prosecution never contacted him to ask him whether or not the claims being made by their 1108 witnesses were true.

Some pro-prosecution observers are now telling MJEOL that this is just "unacceptable" and are exclaiming their disapproval that these prosecutors didn't even try to get Culkin's response to such allegations.

It has been a rather pathetic cross-examination with prosecutor Zonen trying to convince Culkin he was molested in his sleep, with zero evidence to back up that theory. This is the same thing he tried to do with Robson and Barnes.

According to tsg, Zonen was shut down cold by Culkin when asked if he'd ever slept in the same room with any other 35 year old man. Here's how the exchange went according to them:
In a follow-up, Zonen asked if Culkin had ever slept with any other 35-year-old men. "Not that I remember," the actor testified. "But I wasn't friends with any other 35-year-old men who understood me."
(see tsg)


Some observers report that they simply aren't buying this theory and that it would be highly illogical to claim that they were ALL "molested" in their sleep without the prosecution providing one shred of evidence before now to suggest that it is some kind of modus operandi with Jackson.


More as we get it.

Source: http://site2.mjeol.com/modules/news/articl...hp?storyid=1660

 

[Anonymous]

Some observers report that they simply aren't buying this theory and that it would be highly illogical to claim that they were ALL "molested" in their sleep without the prosecution providing one shred of evidence before now to suggest that it is some kind of modus operandi with Jackson.

Very true. Thanks Whisper

 

[got2makeitright]

macs finished and left court

THANK U MAC :tooexcite :tooexcite He made my day :thumbsup

 

[Frenchy]

Oh WOW. Take that Diane Demon!!! GO MAC and THANK YOU x1,000!!!

Hey guys, maybe we should do my own little special "told-you-so" dance for DS and Demon. It goes a little bit like this: :buttkiss:

 

[betty boop 84]

Originally posted by whisper

Also according to thesmokinggun.com and shockingly enough, Culkin also testified that the prosecution never contacted him to ask him whether or not the claims being made by their 1108 witnesses were true.

I don't even have words for that.. Never?

 

[sistahlamb]

MJEOL News Update #1

MAY 11 2005 (12:30 PM ET) -- Mac Culkin has testified that he was never molested by Michael Jackson, directly shooting down previous testimony from prosecution 1108 witnesses.

The jury has now heard from 3 of the prosecution-alleged "victims", who have testified under oath and before the world, that they were never molested or touched inappropriately by Jackson.

Some observers say that everything now is ancillary and there is nothing the prosecution can do under cross-examination that will blunt the fact that all 3 of these now young men have refuted false allegations from prosecution witnesses.

While others complain that it's really a shame they've had to come to court to testify in the first place because neither Culkin, Brett Barnes, nor Wade Robson have ever accused Jackson of molestation. Not 12 years ago and not now.

According to Steve Edwards (Fox 11 News), Culkin was asked what he thought of the charges against Jackson and he replied "Absolutely ridiculous."

He also testified that he has never seen Jackson act inappropriately with any other child either, according to updates from thesmokinggun.com.

Also according to thesmokinggun.com and shockingly enough, Culkin also testified that the prosecution never contacted him to ask him whether or not the claims being made by their 1108 witnesses were true.

Some pro-prosecution observers are now telling MJEOL that this is just "unacceptable" and are exclaiming their disapproval that these prosecutors didn't even try to get Culkin's response to such allegations.

It has been a rather pathetic cross-examination with prosecutor Zonen trying to convince Culkin he was molested in his sleep, with zero evidence to back up that theory. This is the same thing he tried to do with Robson and Barnes.

According to tsg, Zonen was shut down cold by Culkin when asked if he'd ever slept in the same room with any other 35 year old man. Here's how the exchange went according to them:

In a follow-up, Zonen asked if Culkin had ever slept with any other 35-year-old men. "Not that I remember," the actor testified. "But I wasn't friends with any other 35-year-old men who understood me."
(see tsg)



Some observers report that they simply aren't buying this theory and that it would be highly illogical to claim that they were ALL "molested" in their sleep without the prosecution providing one shred of evidence before now to suggest that it is some kind of modus operandi with Jackson.


More as we get it.

Thanx a bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said this earlier on this thread and I'll say it again:

...the prosecution claimed that 6 boys were molested buy Michael. 2 of those 5 have already denied that nothing happened. Maculay will get on the stand and say the same thing so after him, all you have left is Jason Francia(whose credibility is already shot), the 1993 accuser, and Gavin Arvizo.

This senario doesn't make alot of sense being that '93 accuser and Gavin Arvizo are 10 years apart.

What kind of child molester takes a 10 year hiatious between comitting molestion??? That makes absolutly no sense at all and that's what the juors will be asking themselves, is not already.
Maybe there were more victims between '93 and '03???
How could there be when the prosecutin hasn't found any??? Tom Sneddon traveled around the world after 1993 looking for Michael's victims made up by tabloids, and found nothing.

 

[got2makeitright]

Originally posted by sistahlamb
Thanx a bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I said this earlier on this thread and I'll say it again:

I want to know if Jason Francia (whose credibility is already shot), will be ask to take the stand sometime by T- Mez? :crystalball:

 

[Frenchy]

My guess is no. It would take the persecution an opportunity to give Jason Francia the possibility to add more lurid comments. If the persecution did not call him themselves, that's because they themselves had problems with what he might say. If he were a strong witness, you bet they would have called him... but instead, they chose to call his mother.

 

[Frenchy]

Did Mac stay at Neverland?

 

[whisperAdmin]

SpAnKeY SmArTaSs @ May 11 2005

Moret:

Mac was very casual on the stand, did nto appear flustered even thru the rapid fire questions from the prosecution.
This witness is different cuz Mac said that MJ understand him, MJ called him they struck up a freindship cuz MJ said he knows what its like to be a child star he knows what Mac was goin thru.
Mac seemed very comfortable with his relationship with MJ there was nothing unusual going on.
Mac said he fell asleep in many places at NL, arcade, theatre, and sometimes MJ's bed but there was never any concerted effort to get Mac into MJ's bed.
Mac seems to be able to relate to MJ, maybe opening a window for the jury to see what MJ is really like. They have a very natural relationship and understand each other. Casual charming on the stand.
*I would relay what Susan Filan said but I dont feel like typing a bunch of duh-uh-duh's* Officially delusional, waste of a court seat.
*

 

[got2makeitright]

What do you think the jury is thinking about Jordy?? Are they asking them self why did he not take the stand? Umm

 

[Aaliyah]

 

[alfredo]

Originally posted by Frenchy
My guess is no. It would take the persecution an opportunity to give Jason Francia the possibility to add more lurid comments. If the persecution did not call him themselves, that's because they themselves had problems with what he might say. If he were a strong witness, you bet they would have called him... but instead, they chose to call his mother.

That's true Frenchy. A better option would be to put the cop on that did the interview and grill him while playing the tape. Or even better option, which is even more probable, bring in an expert and play the interview tape. That would be excellent. There was absolutely manipulation and false (implanted) memory issues.


:sneddoncrybaby

 

[Frenchy]

Originally posted by whisper


Some observers say that everything now is ancillary and there is nothing the prosecution can do under cross-examination that will blunt the fact that all 3 of these now young men have refuted false allegations from prosecution witnesses.

Hey whisper, we hear a lot about "some observers" in MJEOL bullets... Who are these observers? Is that just a way of saying "we've heard that" or "people say that"? Or are these journalists, TV anchors, panel guests...?
Thanks!

 

[MystiqueX2004]

Originally posted by Frenchy
My guess is no. It would take the persecution an opportunity to give Jason Francia the possibility to add more lurid comments. If the persecution did not call him themselves, that's because they themselves had problems with what he might say. If he were a strong witness, you bet they would have called him... but instead, they chose to call his mother.

They did call Jason to the stand......

 

[Frenchy]

Originally posted by MystiqueX2004
They did call Jason to the stand......

Sorry, stupid me. :hitting

 

[got2makeitright]

Originally posted by alfredo
That's true Frenchy. A better option would be to put the cop on that did the interview and grill him while playing the tape. Or even better option, which is even more probable, bring in an expert and play the interview tape. That would be excellent. There was absolutely manipulation and false (implanted) memory issues.


:sneddoncrybaby

So are we done with 1108? T-mez has not got aroud to what really happen to jordy and blanca son :thumbsdow