Goldberg makes good point about the logs and how the prosecution presents "evidence"
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Witness contradicts accuser's mother on alleged Jackson conspiracy
Ex-security guard says he saw no wrongdoing
By DAWN HOBBS
NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER
ASSOCIATED PRESS PHOTO
Michael Jackson leaves court.
Under defense cross-examination on Wednesday, a police officer who moonlighted as a Neverland Valley Ranch security guard contradicted a key prosecution witness about a conspiracy allegedly orchestrated by Michael Jackson.
The testimony of the officer about detailed security logs that recorded comings and goings at the ranch conflicted in several ways with the account offered by the mother of the boy who has accused Mr. Jackson of molestation.
For example, the security logs indicate that the accuser's mother and her children were guests at Neverland for several days beginning Feb. 6, 2003, dates when she said the family was held captive by Mr. Jackson and his associates in a Miami hotel room.
Guadalupe police Officer Brian Barron said the logs also indicated that the mother and her children were at the ranch with her children in late February. She had said during her 4 1/2 days on the witness stand that by then she had escaped Neverland and was at her boyfriend's Los Angeles apartment.
The discrepancies between the mother's recollection and the security logs could cause problems for prosecutors. They recently led the woman through a day-by-day account of a three-week period in early 2003 when they allege Mr. Jackson and his associates conspired to keep the family against their will at Neverland and several hotels.
Co-defense counsel Robert Sanger's cross-examination has so far made it through half of that timeline. His review of the records is expected continue today. The prosecution will then have another chance to question Officer Barron.
There were other conflicts between Officer Barron's testimony and the mother's.
She had testified that she was holed up in a guest unit away from her children during her entire stay at Neverland in spring 2003. The security logs, however, indicate she spent three nights in sleeping quarters in a ranch dance studio with the children. During those three nights, nearly 30 other guests were visiting Neverland, including Miko Brando, son of the late actor Marlon Brando, and movie producer Robert Evans.
The security logs, displayed for jurors on a large screen, also indicated that the children had visited the ranch in 2002 with actor Chris Tucker several times. The mother testified that her children visited only once that year.
The records show that on Feb. 12, 2003, ranch employee Jesus Salas signed out a Rolls Royce and stopped at the guard booth on the way out of Neverland at 1:38 a.m. The mother testified that she had convinced Mr. Salas to help her escape and return her to Los Angeles.
"There was no secret spiriting away," Mr. Sanger said. "They just checked out right at the gate, right?"
Officer Barron answered that the driver had followed normal procedures and that the car had left the ranch without incident.
Prosecutors are expected to rest their case, now in its eighth week, by the end of next week. Defense lawyers will then attempt to convince jurors that the mother concocted the elaborate conspiracy and coached her son to make up allegations that Mr. Jackson molested him in the spring of 2003 after a failed attempt to get money from the entertainer.
Mr. Jackson, who is free on $3 million bail, has pleaded not guilty to child molestation, administering alcohol to commit a felony, and conspiracy.
Mr. Sanger revealed that Santa Barbara County sheriff's investigators asked Officer Barron to serve as their informant at the ranch after their November 2003 raid. He said he refused. On the advice of the Guadalupe police chief, he quit his moonlighting job at the ranch after the raid, Officer Barron said.
Under questioning by Senior Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss, Officer Barron said there was note on a grease board in the security office instructing guards to keep the accuser, then 13, at the ranch.
"It simply stated that (the boy) is not allowed off the property," Officer Barron said. He said it remained on the board for about a week in February 2003.
But under cross-examination by Mr. Sanger, he conceded that no child visitor would have been allowed to leave Neverland unaccompanied by parents: "We would not let them go off the ranch without supervision."
When Mr. Auchincloss asked the police officer to describe how the demeanor of employees was different when Mr. Jackson was at the ranch, he responded: "Tense.... Everyone was walking on pins and needles to make sure everything was right."
Prosecutors contend Mr. Jackson instilled fear in his employees and that was why no one reported suspicions about his activities with adolescent boys.
However, when Mr. Sanger asked, "When you say 'pins and needles,' is this to suggest Mr. Jackson was a harsh or mean boss?"
"No," the officer answered.
"You meant you need to be on your best behavior, right?" Mr. Sanger asked.
"Yes," Officer Barron said.
"People worked harder when Mr. Jackson was there, correct?" Mr. Sanger asked.
"They worked more, for sure," the officer responded.
The former security guard said that ranch employees knew he was a police officer while he worked at Neverland. He also said that he never saw any wrongdoing at the ranch and would have reported it if he had.
Dawn Hobbs is also a news analyst for NBC and MSNBC. You may e-mail her at dhobbs@newspress.com.
http://www.newspress.com/mjacksonupdate/th...ontradicts.html
Ex-security guard says he saw no wrongdoing
By DAWN HOBBS
NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER
ASSOCIATED PRESS PHOTO
Michael Jackson leaves court.
Under defense cross-examination on Wednesday, a police officer who moonlighted as a Neverland Valley Ranch security guard contradicted a key prosecution witness about a conspiracy allegedly orchestrated by Michael Jackson.
The testimony of the officer about detailed security logs that recorded comings and goings at the ranch conflicted in several ways with the account offered by the mother of the boy who has accused Mr. Jackson of molestation.
For example, the security logs indicate that the accuser's mother and her children were guests at Neverland for several days beginning Feb. 6, 2003, dates when she said the family was held captive by Mr. Jackson and his associates in a Miami hotel room.
Guadalupe police Officer Brian Barron said the logs also indicated that the mother and her children were at the ranch with her children in late February. She had said during her 4 1/2 days on the witness stand that by then she had escaped Neverland and was at her boyfriend's Los Angeles apartment.
The discrepancies between the mother's recollection and the security logs could cause problems for prosecutors. They recently led the woman through a day-by-day account of a three-week period in early 2003 when they allege Mr. Jackson and his associates conspired to keep the family against their will at Neverland and several hotels.
Co-defense counsel Robert Sanger's cross-examination has so far made it through half of that timeline. His review of the records is expected continue today. The prosecution will then have another chance to question Officer Barron.
There were other conflicts between Officer Barron's testimony and the mother's.
She had testified that she was holed up in a guest unit away from her children during her entire stay at Neverland in spring 2003. The security logs, however, indicate she spent three nights in sleeping quarters in a ranch dance studio with the children. During those three nights, nearly 30 other guests were visiting Neverland, including Miko Brando, son of the late actor Marlon Brando, and movie producer Robert Evans.
The security logs, displayed for jurors on a large screen, also indicated that the children had visited the ranch in 2002 with actor Chris Tucker several times. The mother testified that her children visited only once that year.
The records show that on Feb. 12, 2003, ranch employee Jesus Salas signed out a Rolls Royce and stopped at the guard booth on the way out of Neverland at 1:38 a.m. The mother testified that she had convinced Mr. Salas to help her escape and return her to Los Angeles.
"There was no secret spiriting away," Mr. Sanger said. "They just checked out right at the gate, right?"
Officer Barron answered that the driver had followed normal procedures and that the car had left the ranch without incident.
Prosecutors are expected to rest their case, now in its eighth week, by the end of next week. Defense lawyers will then attempt to convince jurors that the mother concocted the elaborate conspiracy and coached her son to make up allegations that Mr. Jackson molested him in the spring of 2003 after a failed attempt to get money from the entertainer.
Mr. Jackson, who is free on $3 million bail, has pleaded not guilty to child molestation, administering alcohol to commit a felony, and conspiracy.
Mr. Sanger revealed that Santa Barbara County sheriff's investigators asked Officer Barron to serve as their informant at the ranch after their November 2003 raid. He said he refused. On the advice of the Guadalupe police chief, he quit his moonlighting job at the ranch after the raid, Officer Barron said.
Under questioning by Senior Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss, Officer Barron said there was note on a grease board in the security office instructing guards to keep the accuser, then 13, at the ranch.
"It simply stated that (the boy) is not allowed off the property," Officer Barron said. He said it remained on the board for about a week in February 2003.
But under cross-examination by Mr. Sanger, he conceded that no child visitor would have been allowed to leave Neverland unaccompanied by parents: "We would not let them go off the ranch without supervision."
When Mr. Auchincloss asked the police officer to describe how the demeanor of employees was different when Mr. Jackson was at the ranch, he responded: "Tense.... Everyone was walking on pins and needles to make sure everything was right."
Prosecutors contend Mr. Jackson instilled fear in his employees and that was why no one reported suspicions about his activities with adolescent boys.
However, when Mr. Sanger asked, "When you say 'pins and needles,' is this to suggest Mr. Jackson was a harsh or mean boss?"
"No," the officer answered.
"You meant you need to be on your best behavior, right?" Mr. Sanger asked.
"Yes," Officer Barron said.
"People worked harder when Mr. Jackson was there, correct?" Mr. Sanger asked.
"They worked more, for sure," the officer responded.
The former security guard said that ranch employees knew he was a police officer while he worked at Neverland. He also said that he never saw any wrongdoing at the ranch and would have reported it if he had.
Dawn Hobbs is also a news analyst for NBC and MSNBC. You may e-mail her at dhobbs@newspress.com.
http://www.newspress.com/mjacksonupdate/th...ontradicts.html
HeavenSent
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Just to popped in to say that I love having our own court reporter 
Who knew?! Thanks, Jess
*off to go catch up*
Who knew?! Thanks, Jess *off to go catch up*
koprulestheworld
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I think our Michael is aging awwww Thank you for that!
Tiger Lilly
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Has any witness actually been good for Sneddon yet? :lol:
Cristine87
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Katie be looking too cute. I love her colorful outfits!
koprulestheworld
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Well i guess you can say yes and no. Depends who is reporting the news right?
Purdy Young Thang
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aging? wtf? He doesn't look any different- just cos his glasses aren't wonky? XD
anyway. much applause for Brian Barron.
koprulestheworld
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:sneddoncrybaby Sorry i meant Michael is 46 and he still looks good but he looks a bit older that all
Cristine87
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Isn't it funny how the employees that saw Michael molesting kids are the ones that tried to sue him for multi-million dollars?
danaluvsmj
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Originally posted by floacist
That girl is my new best friend and I like her blazer too!
Michael is really giving the phrase "Dapper Don" a new meaning he is KILLING the three piece suits everytime.
thats Arus, man she stole my green blazer and my earrings! I have ones that are similar
Danielle Oliver
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Potential Jackson Witness Arrested For Alleged Sex With Minor
Jury Given Half Day Thursday
POSTED: 6:48 am PDT April 21, 2005
CLIFTON, N.J. -- A potential witness in the Michael Jackson trial is in custody in New Jersey for allegedly having sex with a minor.
Authorities in Clifton, N.J., said 18-year-old Ahmad Elatab faces charges of sexual assault, criminal sexual contact and impairing the morals of a minor. The alleged victim is a 14-year-old girl who knew Elatab from a belly-dancing class. She told police she invited Elatab to her home earlier this month and engaged in some consensual acts, but others that were forced on her and not consensual.
Authorities were alerted when a teacher intercepted a graphic note of the encounter that the girl was passing to a classmate.
The girl also told police Elatab bragged he had been at Jackson's house and had seen the pop star seduce a girl.
Elatab maintains the sex was consensual. He's a potential witnesses in Jackson's trial because he befriended the singer's accuser and said the boy told him Jackson helped him fight the illness.
Half-Day Schedule
The Michael Jackson jury will work just a half day Thursday, so the judge has time to resolve some pending motions.
One motion is a prosecution request to have testimony from an expert on battered women, possibly to explain the apparent lack of action by the accuser's mother during her family's alleged false imprisonment.
Another prosecution motion objects to the defense plan to have two dozen Jackson employees say he always behaved properly with children.
Ex-security guard Brian Barron, who worked at Jackson's ranch, was expected to return to the stand Thursday. He testified earlier that he saw an order to keep the boy who is now Jackson's accuser on the ranch. Barron may be asked whether such orders were posted when other children visited.
He's also expected to be asked about arrival and departure logs that contradict some earlier testimony.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4401340/detail.htm...0104212005&ts=H
Jury Given Half Day Thursday
POSTED: 6:48 am PDT April 21, 2005
CLIFTON, N.J. -- A potential witness in the Michael Jackson trial is in custody in New Jersey for allegedly having sex with a minor.
Authorities in Clifton, N.J., said 18-year-old Ahmad Elatab faces charges of sexual assault, criminal sexual contact and impairing the morals of a minor. The alleged victim is a 14-year-old girl who knew Elatab from a belly-dancing class. She told police she invited Elatab to her home earlier this month and engaged in some consensual acts, but others that were forced on her and not consensual.
Authorities were alerted when a teacher intercepted a graphic note of the encounter that the girl was passing to a classmate.
The girl also told police Elatab bragged he had been at Jackson's house and had seen the pop star seduce a girl.
Elatab maintains the sex was consensual. He's a potential witnesses in Jackson's trial because he befriended the singer's accuser and said the boy told him Jackson helped him fight the illness.
Half-Day Schedule
The Michael Jackson jury will work just a half day Thursday, so the judge has time to resolve some pending motions.
One motion is a prosecution request to have testimony from an expert on battered women, possibly to explain the apparent lack of action by the accuser's mother during her family's alleged false imprisonment.
Another prosecution motion objects to the defense plan to have two dozen Jackson employees say he always behaved properly with children.
Ex-security guard Brian Barron, who worked at Jackson's ranch, was expected to return to the stand Thursday. He testified earlier that he saw an order to keep the boy who is now Jackson's accuser on the ranch. Barron may be asked whether such orders were posted when other children visited.
He's also expected to be asked about arrival and departure logs that contradict some earlier testimony.
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4401340/detail.htm...0104212005&ts=H